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Author Topic:   Did Jesus Declare All Food Clean?
AZPaul3
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Message 33 of 88 (847083)
01-17-2019 7:17 PM
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01-17-2019 12:56 PM


Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
I think "contaminated" in this case referrers to some religious sense of unclean rather than any physical contamination from microbes/molecular agents.
In the ancient world there were major issues with pork and other meats being difficult to keep from contaminants both of the animal and of the meat after slaughter. The resulting dietary restrictions were quite prudent at the time and should surprise no one that they made their way into the prevailing religious memes in a population.
With proper feeding, slaughter and handling these issues no longer exist. We have come a long way in 3000 years. But, as usual, the religious mind gets stuck in the old ways and makes irrational reasons to maintain the meme. The "spirit" of the animal/meat being unclean, somehow/somewhy poisoned by god, is now the rationale.

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AZPaul3
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Message 35 of 88 (847099)
01-18-2019 6:51 AM
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01-18-2019 3:36 AM


Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
Maybe, I think it more likely that it was merely ritual and control.
Certainly. But the priests did sometimes try to do some good for their charges. Just like Fishy Fridays for Catholics.
In any case this idiot *is* saying that some animals are actually contaminated.
Can't argue against that. He/she/it did get into scavengers, bottom feeders, garbage eaters, etc. as reasons, which just so happen to correspond to the reasons of the ancient priests.
quote:
Some animals are contaminated/polluted, not for human consumption.
  —Candle2
A blanket statement borne of religious zeal, I think.
His/her/its mind is stuck inside a book.

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Message 38 of 88 (847153)
01-18-2019 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by ringo
01-18-2019 10:39 AM


Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
Because recycling is a bad thing.
Right, but only for things that feed off of death or the icky unappetizing leftovers from meals past.
Recycling grass through a lamb is ok. Just don't mention what the grass is recycling though.

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Message 47 of 88 (847229)
01-19-2019 3:50 PM
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01-19-2019 9:09 AM


Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
A Consumer Report test of commerically raised catfish revealed them to have bacteria counts of more than 27,000,000 per gram.
That's what happens when you leave your catch on the back porch sitting out in the sun for a couple days. Bacteria will just sprout up everywhere in the fish in a process called spontaneous generation. Has a lot to do with the number of tachyons in the ethersphere.
Jesus once fed 5000 people with a few loaves of bread and a few fish. Another time it was 4000.
That's a gross over-exaggeration. Most of the ancient books were rejected for political reasons at Nicaea. Look up the Book of Ramsay where he gives, not just a description of the entree, but the recipe as well. If I recall correctly, Jesus ordered the ham sandwich.
Yet, this same Jesus (Mark 5) allowed 2000 head of swine to plunge into the sea.
Lemmings, Candle2. They were lemmings. You guys can't get anything right, can ya.
No one but you, yourself, has said that God poisoned (contaminated, polluted) meat.
You're the one who said it. Re-read your posts ... carefully.
A rational mind never made this stupid statement, an irrational mind did.
Yah, I know. You shouldn't have made such a stupid statement.
And to state that certain animals were not permitted to be eaten because they are contaminated in a religious sense is silly. It reeks of desperation.
I think we can all see where the desperation is coming from.
God does not withhold good things from those who love Him.
Except intellect.
He only wiithholds harmful things, just as any loving parent does.
Now you're talking vaccinations. I wish you would keep to one subject at a time, please.

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AZPaul3
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Message 53 of 88 (847252)
01-19-2019 8:35 PM
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01-19-2019 6:48 PM


Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
SO sorry, Mr. Gullible Christianity hater, but they were rejected for good solid theological reasons, because they are heresies.
Sorry, Ms Humanity Hater, but one cult's heresy is another cult's dogma.

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AZPaul3
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Message 67 of 88 (847361)
01-21-2019 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Faith
01-20-2019 12:07 AM


Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
So very very sorry again Mr. Humanity Hater (which you really are), but Nicaea is part of the heritage of traditional orthodox Christianity, no cult except according to lying Christianity haters who don't know what they are talking about.
Not a hater, Love. Just disappointed at how many people are so willing to forfeit reality for fantasy, especially when those fantasies involve so much exclusivity and inclinations towards violence.
Doesn't matter how many of which cults gathered at Nicaea, a few of which had to travel under the Emperor's guarantee of protection lest the other cults kill them. A cult is a cult. They were, and still are, all cults.
No sooner had the various factions departed Nicaea when the violence flared again, cult vs cult, christian vs christian, christian vs everybody else.
And you continue in that grand tradition, maybe not a violence of the flesh in your case but a violence of the mind just as mean, ugly and pitiful. That is truly the hateful bit.

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AZPaul3
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Message 69 of 88 (847368)
01-21-2019 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Faith
01-21-2019 4:16 PM


Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
Please don't leave. You are a great source of entertainment. Like slapstick.
Of course, everything that challenges your sacred view is ignorant lie. We expect that from the more malignant, dogmatic, inhumane cults like yours. Reality hurts. We understand that.
But you are right. EvC is going to go on and on and on characterized by such reality and there is nothing anyone can do about it until Percy closes us down.

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