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Message 56 of 146 (864782)
10-16-2019 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Phat
10-16-2019 1:21 PM


Re: Source vs Content
Thugpreacher writes:

I dont know where you became so skeptical, apart from watching people such as Swaggert, Robinson, Falwell, and the modern counterparts swindle the masses. Yet all that you have established is that there are many conmen in Christianity.


If somebody claims that all dogs are brown, the onus is on you to present one that isn't.

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Message 97 of 146 (865155)
10-21-2019 11:53 AM
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10-21-2019 8:07 AM


Re: Source vs Content
Faith writes:

... you certainly can't say Protestants also practice Mass.


Wikipedia can and does:
quote:
Mass is the main eucharistic liturgical service in many forms of Western Christianity. The term Mass is commonly used in the Roman Catholic[1] and Anglican churches,[2] as well as in some Lutheran,[3] Methodist,[4][5] Western Rite Orthodox, and Old Catholic churches.

Other Christian denominations may employ terms such as Divine Service or worship service (and often just "service"), rather than the word Mass.[6] link



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Message 124 of 146 (865236)
10-22-2019 11:44 AM
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10-21-2019 4:12 PM


Re: Source vs Content
Faith writes:

Yeah, all Catholic offshoots, not Protestant.


All Protestants are Catholic offshoots.

Faith writes:

And not all of those denominations have anything they call "Mass."


As Wikipedia says, they don't all use the name "mass" but it's still the same liturgy.

Faith writes:

Every church I've ever been in calls Mass a heresy or blasphemy.


No church I've ever been in calls mass a heresy or blasphemy - because they all have the same practice, just with a different name.

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Message 125 of 146 (865237)
10-22-2019 11:48 AM
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10-22-2019 12:40 AM


Re: Differences between Protestant vs Catholic Mass
Faith writes:

... since I don't know about other likely differences in how the service is conducted.


If you don't know anything about it, why do you keep pontificating as if you did?

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Message 127 of 146 (865241)
10-22-2019 11:56 AM
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10-22-2019 11:52 AM


Re: Differences between Protestant vs Catholic Mass
Faith writes:

***tearing hair out at total misreading*****


Well, that's just as constructive as what you've been posting.

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Message 143 of 146 (865336)
10-23-2019 3:14 PM
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10-22-2019 11:02 PM


Re: The Church History In Context
Phat writes:

Note that this early gathering very much was cohesive and united through belief as well as actions.


But what does it mean to believe?

Phat writes:

But I wholeheartedly disagree with you that a bunch of secular humanists could simply feed people and give them spare change and in any way represent the early believers in a continuum.


That's an opinion not based on fact. There are societies all over the world that manage to feed their hungry as well as we do without one single, solitary "anointed Christian" - so clearly anointed Christians are not a factor.

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Message 144 of 146 (865337)
10-23-2019 3:21 PM
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10-22-2019 11:50 PM


Re: The Church History In Context
Phat writes:

My initial point is that Protestantism didn't come specifically from the RCC since the RCC itself was not the original church.


original church --> Roman Catholic Church --> Protestantism

So yes, Protestantism came from the Roman Catholic Church. The original church is not relevant.

Phat writes:

Protestantism came from reading the Book Of Acts and the Bible specifically.


They were called "Protestants" because they were protesting against the Roman Catholic Church. They claimed to be going back to their "original" roots but that claim is questionable.

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