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Author Topic:   Intelligent Design explains many follies
arachnophilia
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Message 7 of 302 (284046)
02-04-2006 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by inkorrekt
02-04-2006 6:54 PM


steve jobs -- not THAT intelligent
There was a man by the name Steve Jobs who is more intelligent than me and he knew all about the electronic components. He put them all together and laid them in the proper places and fed the electric power. This became the original DESIGN of the first Apple computer. Later on this one evolved into imac's and g-macs. So, in this situation, it was Steve Jobs who was the Intelligent Designer.
i have a computer in the second line of job's designs. coincidentally, jobs did not design the first apple -- his friends did. they also didn't design much of the first graphical computer: they "co-opted" it from xerox. anyways. the first of job's designs, "lisa," is a well known failure. didn't even make it to market, because the components were to expensive.
but on to the one i have. i happen to own an original macintosh plus. it was about the second or third kind of mac made, basically no different from the first except that it had more memory. all macs of this generation have a fatal flaw. they are all convection cooled -- there is no fan present in the macintosh. the flaw is that vents are not big enough. this causes the computer to overheat, spark, melt circuitry, and maybe even catch fire if you leave it on long enough. the video card goes first. there is no solution to this problem.
so, yes, brilliant design. the used the same design on the recent mac cube, which i hear you can make toast with.
For those who believe in random chance:
If I put all the pieces of a small puzzle (may be 50) and shake them up even after million times, chances of them self assembling themselves is impossible. Now, one more to think about.
but the problem is that this is not a good analogy for evolution. we are not trying to reproduce a design that already exist, or fit bits of things together from a complete starting point that has been jig-sawed apart. and it is not random.
now, if you had a computer algorithm that started with one piece of the puzzle, and tried a few different pieces at random to attach to it rejecting all the ones that didn't fit and keeping the ones that did -- see how fast your puzzle gets put together.
This message has been edited by arachnophilia, 02-04-2006 09:32 PM


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arachnophilia
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Message 32 of 302 (290071)
02-24-2006 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Jazzns
02-24-2006 11:22 AM


Re: Evolution unimaginable to ID's
Where is the evidence? When I ask for evidence, all i get is" REad this book" No one has given me any concrete evidence for evolution to occur. Whatever was offered is irrational and boring.
OMG if I didn't like my current sig so much I would totally change it to this. How the heck to you expect anyone ever to take you seriously when you make statements like this?
You want evidence as long as that evidence is not in book form?
What about magazine form?
Or scroll?
the irony of course, aside from the willful ignorance, is that the major creationist sources is *drumroll* a book. the greater irony (or rather tragedy) is in the fact that most creationists seem not to have read it, or understood it.
maybe it's just an aversion to the written word.


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arachnophilia
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Message 34 of 302 (290076)
02-24-2006 12:06 PM
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02-24-2006 12:02 PM


Re: Evolution unimaginable to ID's
Maybe then the solution to creationism is not teaching more science but rather pushing reading initiatives with a focus on comprehension.
maybe. i'll go a step further, and a little more edgy. i say the required instructional text be the bible. a good study of the bible as literature tends to cause problems for creationism (and faith in general, sometimes).


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arachnophilia
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Message 39 of 302 (290453)
02-25-2006 7:03 PM
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02-25-2006 4:02 PM


Re: Evolution unimaginable to ID's
How about Torah? May be this will be better than the Bible!!!!!
yeah, see, case in point.
the torah / chumash / penteteuch is the first five books of the bible, the so-called "books of moses." as for discouraging religion? yes, it would be better than the bible as a whole. but no, i was advocating the WHOLE thing, including all of the prophets and the new testament.


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