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ringo
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Message 9 of 285 (611534)
04-08-2011 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tram law
04-08-2011 8:34 AM


Tram law writes:
... if actual footage like this was actually found, would this constitute real and hard evidence of the paranormal?
I don't think it could be considered evidence of the paranormal until there was some explanation of how the paranormal works. Unless it fits into some kind of theoretical framework, it's just something that hasn't been explained yet. After all, fakery does fit into well-understood theories.

If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

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ringo
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Message 26 of 285 (611813)
04-11-2011 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Tram law
04-11-2011 9:36 AM


Tram law writes:
If an unknown invisible force grabbed you by the feet and pulled you out of bed, and down a flight of stairs, and it wasn't a hallucination of some sort, and it can't be a hallucination because it was caught on tape and you have the injuries to prove it, what is the alternate answer?
Once again, any alternative answer would have to explain what did happen. To be an alternative answer, it has to be an answer, not just a litany of what it wasn't.

If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

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ringo
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Message 33 of 285 (611835)
04-11-2011 1:00 PM
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04-11-2011 12:41 PM


Tram law writes:
So while it might be more plausible, it doesn't really seem right because it raises a lot of questions to be asked.
Questions are what keep science moving forward. If there were no questions, that would be a bad sign. The problem with the "paranormal" conclusion is that it doesn't ask questions that can be investigated.

If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

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ringo
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Message 69 of 285 (612846)
04-19-2011 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by Phat
04-19-2011 8:03 AM


Re: Do we start by having no bias either way?
Phat writes:
Do you want to find anything in particular? Do you find yourself hoping for a certain conclusion?
That's the subtle difference between looking at evidence and looking for evidence.

If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

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