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Larni
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Message 46 of 49 (644003)
12-14-2011 3:15 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Panda
12-13-2011 6:23 PM


Re: CERN Report
I confidently expected to be living on tha moon and driving a fly car by the year 2000. At least we should have all been wearing silver jump suits.
Bah. You can't trust that fancy book learning.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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kbertsche
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Message 47 of 49 (644066)
12-14-2011 8:35 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by cavediver
12-13-2011 7:36 PM


Re: CERN Report
quote:
Ah - oh well
I'm so busy at the moment that I didn't even read the report (so busy that I haven't yet replied to you in the other thread - will do, promise) but just thought I heard around 3 sigma in each channel (tho' I did wonder why in that case, they didn't give an effective combined...) The 2 sigma deficits are all the selectrinos and sphotinos.
I listened to two seminars today, one on Atlas results and the other on CMS. I had misinterpreted the plots earlier; the two experiments have not been combined together. Each one shows between a 2 and 3 sigma excess when they combine all channels. For each experiment, the same two channels dominate the data: H -> PP, and H -> ZZ -> 4L (where H is Higgs, P is photon, L is lepton). The data still seems underwhelming (about 1% chance that it could be a statistical fluke), but both experiments agree pretty well on the significance and the mass range.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." — Albert Einstein
I am very astonished that the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us a lot of factual information, puts all of our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these domains, but the answers are very often so silly that we are not inclined to take them seriously. — Erwin Schroedinger

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GDR
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Message 48 of 49 (645008)
12-22-2011 10:45 AM


New Particle
LHC reports discovery of its first new particle
BBC Report

  
Perdition
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Message 49 of 49 (645050)
12-22-2011 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by cavediver
04-25-2011 3:43 PM


I don't know why there was even an attenpt to come up with another name.
The story I heard, possibly apocryphal, is that Lederman wanted to title his book "The Goddamn Particle" because of how hard it is to find, despite how important it is. The publisher convinced him to shorten it so it wouldn't be so offensive...and a terrible term was born!

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