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Author Topic:   Definitions of Liberal and Conservative
Phat
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Message 1 of 46 (613938)
04-29-2011 12:12 PM


I hear these terms tossed around loosely these days. This led to me starting this topic, in order to ask everyone to come to a consensus and define what a liberal is and what a conservative is.
It has been my understanding that conservatives are for smaller government, free enterprise and a free market economy.
Liberals tend to believe in social welfare, a larger government that cares for all of the people rather than simply the businessmen, and addressing the concerns of the needy.
Can anyone help clarify, correct, and add to my positions?

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Phat
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Message 34 of 46 (613986)
04-29-2011 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by ringo
04-29-2011 2:12 PM


Finally A Decent Reply
I am a bit angry that my post got off topic almost immediately. If I were still an administrator at EvC there would be some heads rolling, lemme tell ya.
Anyway...
Ringo writes:
A liberal believes that healthcare should be universally available to eveybody regardless of their ability to pay.
A conservative believes that healthcare should be universally available to everybody regardless of their ability to pay but those who do have the ability to pay should be allowed to go to the front of the line.
A barking-mad, howl-at-the-moon ultra-conservative believes that healthcare should be in the private sector.
Based on your definition, I suppose that I am more conservative than liberal. I see no problem with paying a toll in order to bypass the masses. Poor folks fly coach.

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Phat
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Message 39 of 46 (613993)
04-29-2011 11:51 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by ringo
04-29-2011 11:18 PM


Re: Finally A Decent Reply
Perhaps I should clarify my beliefs, if only for my own understanding! I believe that every human deserves basic health care. I also believe that its no crime to be able to pay extra for upgraded service. My insurance at work covers $300.00 for vision benefits. These basically include a checkup and a pair of glasses. They don't cover Lasik.
Thus, if I wanted to have laser surgery, I would have to pay out of pocket for it. Seems fair enough.
Getting back to liberal and conservative, (how did we ever get away from the issue?) I tend to support a liberal base..(universal health care and social security) but I am not opposed to having the option available for a man to go to a private physician, should he so be able to afford. (Why is that even an issue?)

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