ICANT writes:
Can anyone present a case for existence without it being brought about by existence?
Hi ICANT. This is my first visit to your thread, so if what I'm about to say has been said, my apologies.
I'm not sure what you are asking here, but as to having no beginning, Jehovah, the Biblical god has never had a beginning. The proper name Jehovah/YHWH is in both the Received Text manuscripts and the Alexandrian Text manuscripts over 6000 time. It means
the existing one or
self existing one. This is unique in that this is the only name of any god having that meaning, implying, of course, that Jehovah is the only existing true god of the Universe.
Now, since, according to some texts Jehovah exists in the
heavens with his angels and other celestial creatures, the Universe must needs be eternal, always to have existed.
Since God's universe has always existed, the 1LoT applies, which says that no energy has ever been created, nor will it ever be decreased. Energy (including matter) has always existed in some form. Jehovah, being all-energetic/omnipotent has been managing his Universe forever, creating, changing, destroying and remaking things.
2LoT is the law of equilibrium. Energy released from one source energizes into where it is released, such as in a pressure tank, The compressed air in it, when released looses pressure which adds the released energy outside of it.
God, in creation, rested after enough energy was released from him to do the work of creating. Jesus felt energy released from him when the woman touched the hem of his garment for healing. This all makes more scientific sense than things like the Singularity predeceasing the alleged BB, having no space to have happened, no time in which to have happened and no outside of into which to expand. Nobody knows, I understand about where the energy came form or if there was any before.
So in a sense, the answer to your question is that nothing was ever brought about to begin to exist. It all involves energy which only changes form. This satisfies the Biblical record.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.