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Author Topic:   Money Isn't a False God
AZPaul3
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Message 109 of 150 (884161)
01-24-2021 4:26 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Phat
01-24-2021 2:12 AM


Re: Reopening An Old Thread
But I would argue that we cant simply hand out stimulus checks and pay people back for 300 year injustices.

I don't know anything about any reparations but we've been sending out stimulus checks to the tune of several 100 $$$billion every year or so to all the Fortune 500 and 1000s of other profitable businesses.

In one recent year the wonderful folks at GE earned $10 billion and paid $0 Fed Income Tax. In fact they received a tax refund credit of $400 million.

That's one hell of a stimulus check.

What America's Biggest Companies Pay In Taxes

OK that's 3 year-old data but you get the picture.

This is happening all across corporate America every year. $$$billions profit, no income tax.

Before you get your panties in a knot about some supposed reparation payments to people we kept economically and socially depressed for 300 years, look at where our nation's wealth is going right now. It ain't pretty.

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AZPaul3
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Message 134 of 150 (885125)
03-24-2021 1:54 PM
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03-24-2021 1:17 PM


Re: Money Isn't a Deity
Feel free to stand on that argument till the cows come home but there is a 100% chance that im not buying it.

100% is absolute infallibility.

What you are trying to argue is that a free will decision to believe is based on probability rather than communion.

It is based on acculturation and emotional balance. Communion is just an excuse to stage a ritual enforcing the emotion.


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AZPaul3
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Message 146 of 150 (885139)
03-24-2021 6:43 PM
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03-24-2021 3:48 PM


Re: Money Isn't a Deity
You are attempting to frame all of human understanding on the scientific method, a rather recent development.

Oh, I understand that quite well. Science has shown itself, even in its fledgling infancy, to have explanatory powers no other philosophy can begin to approach let alone match.

You are claiming infallibility using this method, even though the method itself is not infallible.

Phat, you've been around these parts long enough to know science claims no such thing.

What we claim is best evidence and the preponderance of the evidence.

Can you match that?

You and ringo are attempting to trivialize belief with the assumption that no actual God exists.

I won't try to speak for ringo who speaks very well for himself, but I for one do not wish to trivialize your god or its existence.

I want to kill your god. I don't want the idea of your god trivialized, I want it extinct ... extinctified ... extincticated.

You are suggesting that some humans, armed with a methodology and critical thought discipline, can define the validity of the freewilled beliefs of others.

Yep.

Or at least point out where their errors lay and give them the knowledge and the tools to correct their thinking.

If you are suggesting I want to force the situation on society, yah, that might fit my emotional state but it won't work. Evolution (fast, sped-up, escalated) not revolution.

I have a free will and I have a brain the equal of any of yours.

Absolutely.

I assume your brain operates well within the bell curve of human normal as does mine. But your brain has a couple screws loose in the circuitry defining your god. It seems disconnected from the critical logic regions which seem to operate just fine in other realms knocking around in there.

It's hard going but I'm still working on you.

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