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Message 106 of 108 (617350)
05-27-2011 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by marc9000
05-22-2011 4:30 PM

dwise1 writes:

As for the teacher who broke into tears at the thought of being forced to deliberately lie to his students, I would need to find that in my book in order to get his name and then point us to his testimony. No free time until Monday or possibly Thursday. Be patient.

Dont bother, Im not interested in the name of another girly man. We already have one as House Speaker.

Found it. A Philosopher's Day in Court by Michael Ruse, reporting on his participation in the 1981 Arkansas trial, in the anthology Science and Creationism, edited by Ashley Montagu, page 335:

and then when the science witnesses had done their job. Then came the most moving testimony of all, as ordinary schoolteachers from Arkansas explained how we simply could not teach the travesty of Creation-science. I shall never forget the man who cried out under cross-examination: "Look, sir! I'm not a martyr or anything! but I just can't teach that stuff. I'm not a scientist. I'm a science educator. I'm like a traffic cop, directing ideas down from scientists to schoolchildren. My pupils respect me. All teachers are like parents in a way. How can I go into my classroom, spreading ideas that I know to be wrong? My students will despise me, and I will not be able to live with myself."

I apologize for not having remembered it perfectly from over 25 years ago. Still exhibits the strong emotions raised by the teachers' dedication and loyalty to their students.

Edited by dwise1, : final sentence

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Message 107 of 108 (617445)
05-28-2011 11:49 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Dr Adequate
05-19-2011 2:03 AM

Dr Adequate writes:

I suggest that you replace this statement with the sentence "Flamenco-dancing anteaters are gnawing at my hat" to maintain your otherwise impeccable standard of bizarre, surreal inaccuracy.

How do you know that that's necessarily an inaccurate statement? After all, we don't really know anything about marc9000's home life.

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.

Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
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I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
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Message 108 of 108 (680994)
11-21-2012 11:02 PM

Edumacation, Louisiana style.
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