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Author Topic:   If our sun is second or third generation, does this not conflict with Genesis ?
Coyote
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Message 9 of 231 (615279)
05-11-2011 10:50 PM


Science?
This thread is in the Science Forum.

Why are there so many references to ancient tribal myths?


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 13 of 231 (615328)
05-12-2011 9:57 AM
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05-12-2011 8:20 AM


Re: Science?
Buzsaw writes:

Coyote writes:

This thread is in the Science Forum.

Why are there so many references to ancient tribal myths?

Did you read the "let there be light" in the OP? It appears that this thread is partly about an attempt to refute the Genesis record. Shouldn't there be opportunity for creationists to debate their positions?

No. There is enough ignorance in the world already. We don't need any more. ;-)


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 73 of 231 (616030)
05-19-2011 12:46 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Taz
05-19-2011 12:10 AM


Solar spectrum
The composition of the sun can be easily determined.

Here's a good link:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/h2522387117r87q7/


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Message 83 of 231 (616347)
05-20-2011 10:21 PM


Mythology...
There is no scientific evidence for the Genesis myth, nor for the myth of a young earth.

Those stories are ancient tribal myths. One might as believe in the myth of a flat earth.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 88 of 231 (616355)
05-20-2011 10:42 PM
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05-20-2011 10:32 PM


Re: Mythology...
Buzsaw writes:

Coyote writes:

There is no scientific evidence for the Genesis myth, nor for the myth of a young earth.

Those stories are ancient tribal myths. One might as believe in the myth of a flat earth.

There has been, however, cited evidence of the credibility of the Biblical record, which does not literally depict a young earth.


There is no credible evidence for a young earth. None.

There is a massive amount of evidence for an old earth.

The Genesis account is tribal myth, subject to multiple interpretations depending on belief. It is not hypothesis or theory, both of which are subject to, or the result of, testing against empirical evidence.

All hypotheses and theories have their problematic improbabilities.

Not sure what this means. If you are saying that scientific theories are tentative, well, we all know that.

If you are saying that scientific theories are just random guesswork unsupported by factual evidence and successful predictions, you are incorrect. In spite of what a lot of creationists may tell you, "theory" does not mean "guesswork."


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 91 of 231 (616359)
05-20-2011 11:46 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by granpa
05-20-2011 11:21 PM


Re: you're going to have to "Stuudy Genesis" even more than that.
It is my personal theory that 'round things' were created on day four.

Like this?


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Message 149 of 231 (720273)
02-21-2014 10:25 AM
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02-21-2014 9:35 AM


Re: I study Genesis and the rest of the Torah non-stop.
The fact is, that there are no facts in science.

Viewpoints now declared holy by science, may be in on the garbage heap tomorrow when new evidence has come to light that refutes that what was yesterday an indisputable scientific fact.

BfD

You are confusing facts and either hypotheses or theories.

Better study some science before you pontificate on it.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1


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