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Author Topic:   If our sun is second or third generation, does this not conflict with Genesis ?
fearandloathing
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Message 15 of 231 (615350)
05-12-2011 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Coyote
05-12-2011 9:57 AM


Re: Science?
Coyote writes:
Buzsaw writes:
Coyote writes:
This thread is in the Science Forum.
Why are there so many references to ancient tribal myths?
Did you read the "let there be light" in the OP? It appears that this thread is partly about an attempt to refute the Genesis record. Shouldn't there be opportunity for creationists to debate their positions?
No. There is enough ignorance in the world already. We don't need any more. ;-)
I got to agree with Buzz on this, it seems to me this topic will go nowhere without the input of creationist. I cant imagine anyone else who would refute the position presented in the OP, JMHO, and I am often wrong.

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Message 18 of 231 (615361)
05-12-2011 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Jon
05-12-2011 12:08 PM


Re: Science?
Jon writes:
Sorry, after a bit of further reading. The first generation of stars also would not have had planets either
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | First stars had no planets
So first day God created light
Third day God created land
Gen. 1 says nothing about God creating land on the third day. Where are you reading this?
Gen 1:9-13 taken from here
9 And God said, Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear. And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground land, and the gathered waters he called seas. And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds. And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morningthe third day.

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Message 21 of 231 (615365)
05-12-2011 12:47 PM
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05-12-2011 12:39 PM


Re: Science?
I guess I don't understand your question, I know it wasn't directed at me but I figured I would put my 2 cents in as I had just got done looking at the passage.
Do you think he means gen 1:1 or ??? It seems clear to me it was on 3rd day based on gen 1:9-13... Am I wrong and why??
I think maybe the OP could've been a little clearer by using exact passages.

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Message 24 of 231 (615369)
05-12-2011 1:42 PM
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05-12-2011 1:11 PM


Re: Science?
I guess I may have misinterpreted the passages, I am no creationist by any means and probably have no business interpreting a book I don't believe in. I simply seen your question and thought I would look it up for myself and put my 2 cent in, as I have said before, I am often wrong, and probably continue to be so on a regular basis.
Not sure about the future of this topic??

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fearandloathing
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Message 25 of 231 (615371)
05-12-2011 1:55 PM
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05-12-2011 1:27 PM


Re: Science?
Nonukes writes:
The OP's original question did not require sorting out when land was created.
Yes I see now, the OP's writer made a statement in msg 10 that refereed to land on 3rd day, I should've looked back before saying the OP wasn't clear
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