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Author Topic:   We are DOOMED, Sat may 21, 2011
New Cat's Eye
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Message 181 of 229 (616718)
05-24-2011 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 179 by frako
05-24-2011 6:14 AM


Does anybody think that he actually believes in all this, or do you just think he's straight-up lying? He seems sane, so....

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jar
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Message 182 of 229 (616719)
05-24-2011 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by Buzsaw
05-23-2011 10:03 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
Buzsaw writes:
Don't say Jehovah is an evil god. He is the god of blessings to those who fear and acknowledge that he is god and that Israel is his nation as the Bible says. He is merciful in forewarning the nations how to be blessed and avoid the curse. Like Pharaoh and Egypt, if they ignore his warnings and pursue Israel for their demise, Jehovah will pursue them for their demise. The same goes for the US. So long as we send billions in aid to them, build up their armies and cities and undermine God's nation, parting their land, God will keep his curse promise.
Have you ever read the Bible Buz?
The Nation of Israel was considered apostate and condemned by God. Judah was the Nation that returned to YHWH and was to be blessed.
The Pharaoh did not ignore any warnings, the God in the story manipulates the Pharaoh mind and changes it.
Nor is anyone suggesting parting Israels land, only that they get out of land they are stealing by force and conquest.
Sheesh Buz, read the Bible and the news.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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riVeRraT
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Message 183 of 229 (616722)
05-24-2011 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by Buzsaw
05-23-2011 7:30 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
Buzsaw writes:
Franko, I've lived 76 years. I know how many more disastrous weather related things are happening to the US than ever in it's history, one after another, after another.
Perhaps buz, it's just better news. Today you learn about more things globally than ever before, not that there is more of it. That is due to technology, and media. Also with a larger population, of course more people will get hurt when a disaster strikes, but maybe not percentage wise. With better construction, and today's warning systems, percentage wise it is possible that less people get hurt today per disaster than years ago. I know this is true for at least hurricanes (according to a weather channel report I saw).

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Granny Magda
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Message 184 of 229 (616725)
05-24-2011 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 161 by Buzsaw
05-23-2011 2:27 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
Hi Buz,
All of the above are aspirations of Obama.
You actually think that Obama is such a monster that he wants energy prices to rise? But he is also so dim that he can't think of a better way to damage America than hiking up gas prices? You have a rathe rlimited imagination Buz.
Btw, you need to acknowledge the definition of lie. If you think I was mistaken or that my predictions failed, say so, but I appreciate it if you would refrain from personally attacking my character, calling me a liar.
Actually, i don't think that you're a liar exactly. I think that you're a dupe. The piffle you trotted out last time we covered this (which I refuted then) certainly consists of lies, they're just not your lies. You didn'r originate these lies, you just heard them being spread by whacko media outlets like Fox. And you believed them, because they fed into your prejudices. It's a shame. you are actually the victim here, a gullible patsy being lied to by right-wing propagandists.
Of course, that doesn't entirely absolve you of responsibility for the lies you repeat. Before accusing your own president (or any other person) of heinous crimes like terrorism, you should back those claims up with evidence. You have no evidence, only scare-mongering lies, spread by professional liars.
I said he would undermine Israel...
Yes, you did. And he hasn't.
...restrict energy production
Now either that is a lie or your memeory is shot and you couldn't be bothered to look back and see what you wrote. I can though. You said this;
Buzsaw writes:
8: Increased energy costs
9: Excessive high coal standards which will essentially put the coal mines out of business.
(8) is so pathetically obvious that a child could have predicted it. of course energy costs rose. They rose under Bush too. They have risen steadily for years. This is in no way Obama's fault. this is a non-prediction.
(9) Is just plain wrong.
So much for your powers of prophesy.
push the socialist agenda and work to end nationalism and advance the new world order.
This is nothing more than mental masturbation. At least, I hope it's just mental...
I said he would cause energy costs to rise. He did, and they are still on the rise.
see above. Of course, if you can demonstarte that Obama caused this, you might have something. But you haven't even bothered to try. Energy costs are up, as per usual, so you assume that Obama must be responsible. Pathetic.
Yah, so long as this regime is in power, bad stuff continues for the US.
As opposed to your darling Bush, under whose watch nothing bad ever happened.
Camping had it all wrong with his fool hearted and deceptive nonsense. He took it upon himself to read into the prophecies a whole lot of what isn't there.
That's it folks, there's no more irony for you to employ. Buzsaw just used up a years supply in a single sentence.
Mutate and Survive

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Buzsaw
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Message 185 of 229 (616740)
05-24-2011 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 179 by frako
05-24-2011 6:14 AM


frako writes:
HAHA so Jesus did come we unbelievers just dint see him The end comes on october 21
HAHA, so 99.9999% of us believers also didn't see him, nor do we think God came stealthfully on May 21 as per Camping or that the end comes on October 21.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 186 of 229 (616762)
05-24-2011 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by Granny Magda
05-24-2011 9:20 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
Granny Magda writes:
Hi Buz,
All of the above are aspirations of Obama.
You actually think that Obama is such a monster that he wants energy prices to rise? But he is also so dim that he can't think of a better way to damage America than hiking up gas prices? You have a rathe rlimited imagination Buz.
It is your cause and effect perception that appears to be limited, Granny. You restrict the production of energy and what do you get? Obama is suppose to be intelligent enough to understand that. He's also intelligent enough to know that if you dilute the $$ as his spending spree has done, you inflate the prices of about everything.
He, like his bud, George Soros knows that in order to change America into a socialist regime and implement the New World Order, you first need to impoverish the sheeple and make them dependent on the government. You can destroy the evil capitalist heritage of America so as to implement your desired socialist state.
Btw, you need to acknowledge the definition of lie. If you think I was mistaken or that my predictions failed, say so, but I appreciate it if you would refrain from personally attacking my character, calling me a liar.
Actually, i don't think that you're a liar exactly. I think that you're a dupe. The piffle you trotted out last time we covered this (which I refuted then) certainly consists of lies, they're just not your lies. You didn't originate these lies, you just heard them being spread by whacko media outlets like Fox. And you believed them, because they fed into your prejudices. It's a shame. you are actually the victim here, a gullible patsy being lied to by right-wing propagandists.
You people keep on calling Fox News liars but never back up your assertions, when in fact much of the news which the lamestreams with-holds from the public, Fox airs. Thus the large viewer-ship which Fox gets.
I said he would undermine Israel...
Yes, you did. And he hasn't.
He has. What other president has insisted that Israel pull back to the pre-1967 borders as Obama has? What other president has treated Israel's prime minister as shabbily as Obama has on visits to the US? What other president has vocally and diplomatically favored Israel's enemy Muslim states as Obama has?
...restrict energy production
Now either that is a lie or your memeory is shot and you couldn't be bothered to look back and see what you wrote. I can though. You said this;
Buzsaw writes:
8: Increased energy costs
9: Excessive high coal standards which will essentially put the coal mines out of business.
Granny, regarding coal, this is his what his aspirations are in his own words.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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crashfrog
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Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


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Message 187 of 229 (616784)
05-24-2011 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by Buzsaw
05-24-2011 11:06 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
What other president has insisted that Israel pull back to the pre-1967 borders as Obama has?
Every other one, including Reagan and George Bush.
That's the amazing thing about this controversy - "1969 borders plus land swaps" has always been the stated policy goal of the US in regards to Israel. Absolutely no US Presidents have ever publicaly embraced an "Israel can have whatever land it wants" policy.
"1969 plus land swaps" is what it's always been, Buz. It just wasn't on Fox News when it was Bush's policy, so you didn't know to be outraged about it.
What other president has treated Israel's prime minister as shabbily as Obama has on visits to the US?
You've not presented even a single example of that being the case; you've simply uttered untruths.

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Granny Magda
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Posts: 2462
From: UK
Joined: 11-12-2007


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Message 188 of 229 (616820)
05-24-2011 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by Buzsaw
05-24-2011 11:06 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
It is your cause and effect perception that appears to be limited, Granny. You restrict the production of energy and what do you get? Obama is suppose to be intelligent enough to understand that. He's also intelligent enough to know that if you dilute the $$ as his spending spree has done, you inflate the prices of about everything.
The US inflation rate is about 3.2%. That is hardly runaway inflation. The Dollar has not crashed. If Obama is trying to destroy America by screwing with the economy, he's doing a terrible job.
He, like his bud, George Soros knows that in order to change America into a socialist regime and implement the New World Order, you first need to impoverish the sheeple and make them dependent on the government. You can destroy the evil capitalist heritage of America so as to implement your desired socialist state.
You forget, I'm European. You can't just scare me off by shouting (ahem) buzz-words like "SOCIALISM!". It just doesn't have the same shock value to me as it does in certain circles in the US.
As a lifelong Socialist, I assure you, Obama is no Socialist. I sincerely wish he was. Instead he is a rather modest centrist.
You people keep on calling Fox News liars but never back up your assertions, when in fact much of the news which the lamestreams with-holds from the public, Fox airs. Thus the large viewer-ship which Fox gets.
I think that Taz's Fox news = false news thread has done a perfectly satisfactory job of proving that Fox News broadcasts lies.
As for your predictions, they are perfect examples of the lies that propagandists like Fox sell to you. The lies you swallow wholesale. Lies like;
Buzsaw writes:
1. Forced unionism.
Utter bullshit. It hasn't happened. Some liar told you it was going to happen and you believed it, but it hasn't happened.
3. Weaker smaller military.
The US still has the worlds strongest military, by a grotesquely wide margin. Obama has increased military spending and has just started his own shiny new war! You prediction was wrong, feebly wrong. You got lied to Buz. I mean, just look at this one;
6. Increased Jihadist terrorism by terrorists who supported the Obama presidency.
Ouch! Instead of your ludicrous conspiracy fever dream, Obama personally signed the order to assassinate Bin Laden. Yet you still won't accept that your own president isn't some kind of terrorist. I can't even bear to go on with your silly list of gaffes. It's just too embarrassing
What other president has treated Israel's prime minister as shabbily as Obama has on visits to the US?
All of them. That's what US presidents do when they talk to Israel. They have no choice given Israel's behaviour and unrealistic aspirations.
What other president has vocally and diplomatically favored Israel's enemy Muslim states as Obama has?
Pucker up Buz.
Granny, regarding coal, this is his what his aspirations are in his own words.
First you will note that he says he wants to bankrupt the people who build the coal power stations, not those who dig the coal. But enough of what he has said. What has he actually done?
quote:
Obama Administration Pouring $1 Billion Into Clean Coal Project
By Kent Garber
Posted: June 12, 2009
Print
Since taking over as energy secretary, Steven Chu, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist, has been talking up the importance of clean coal technology. The world won't abandon coal anytime soon, he has argued, so the United States has to start doing more to develop technologies that capture carbon dioxide from coal-fired plants.
In a sign the Obama administration is taking his argument seriously, Chu on Friday announced that the Department of Energy is pouring $1 billion from the economic stimulus package into relaunching FutureGen, an ambitious but long-stalled project intended to show how carbon dioxide can be captured on a large scale from coal-fired power plants.
Initially conceived in 2003, FutureGen was pitched as having the potential to be the first "zero-emissions" coal plant in the United States. In 2007, after several years of initial planning, Mattoon, Ill., was selected as the site. But in January 2008, the Bush administration pulled the project's funding, citing cost overruns. Since then, FutureGen has been stuck in something of an existential purgatory.
Effectively reversing that decision, Chu said on Friday that the Department of Energy has signed a new deal with the FutureGen Alliance, a consortium of roughly 20 coal producers and other companies that have backed the project from the start. Project officials will resume design activities and make new cost estimates, and a final decision on whether to green-light the project, officials say, will come next year.
The Energy Department will put up more than $1 billion to restart FutureGen, and the Alliance will chip in more than $400 million. Both will be working to bring in new partners.
The US coal industry has not collapsed. That was just another fantasy. Meanwhile, Obama is trying to find ways of providing for America's energy needs without damaging the climate. That sounds rather sensible to me. I only wish he were trying a bit harder.
Mutate and Survive
PS; Is there any chance of you retracting any of those false predictions? Surely you can see that your list wasn't a 100% success?

On two occasions I have been asked, — "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage

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Taz
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Message 189 of 229 (616825)
05-24-2011 1:31 PM


This just in, Camping won't give back money to people.
Edit.
This just in, Camping has a new date.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

  
frako
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Joined: 09-04-2010


Message 190 of 229 (616828)
05-24-2011 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by Buzsaw
05-24-2011 10:19 AM


HAHA, so 99.9999% of us believers also didn't see him, nor do we think God came stealthfully on May 21 as per Camping or that the end comes on October 21.
Well buzz that makes you unbelievers and your going to go to hell for worshiping an idol/made up version of god.

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crashfrog
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Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 191 of 229 (616847)
05-24-2011 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by Granny Magda
05-24-2011 1:04 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
The US inflation rate is about 3.2%. That is hardly runaway inflation.
Buz thinks there's double-secret invisible inflation that manifests itself entirely in rising energy costs and not, say, as rising wages.
It apparently has yet to occur to him that rising energy prices might just indicate rising demand for energy.

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frako
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Message 192 of 229 (616853)
05-24-2011 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by New Cat's Eye
05-24-2011 8:53 AM


Seing the first video that came out after "judgment day" i think he is buying the shit he preaches, because he seemed really upset when the end of days dint come and he wasn't raptured.
The second video where he says he will not remind people of the October dooms-date makes me think he is playing everybody the second date will calm the worst of his upset flock and if it wont be commercialized the time that will pass to the date will do much to dilute the angriness of the deceived flock.
So im not totally sure what he believes, ithik its a bit of both.

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Buzsaw
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Message 193 of 229 (617102)
05-25-2011 10:21 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by crashfrog
05-24-2011 5:33 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
crashfrog writes:
The US inflation rate is about 3.2%. That is hardly runaway inflation.
Buz thinks there's double-secret invisible inflation that manifests itself entirely in rising energy costs and not, say, as rising wages.
It apparently has yet to occur to him that rising energy prices might just indicate rising demand for energy.
They don't factor in the cost of clothes and food, as I understand it. Go figure. That's huge. Food has gone up big time. Now their mandating our corn food to be burnt up for energy here in NY and elsewhere..

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Buzsaw
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Message 194 of 229 (617103)
05-25-2011 10:25 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by crashfrog
05-24-2011 11:50 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
crashfrog writes:
What other president has insisted that Israel pull back to the pre-1967 borders as Obama has?
Every other one, including Reagan and George Bush.
Your source is?

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Buzsaw
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Message 195 of 229 (617105)
05-25-2011 10:32 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by Granny Magda
05-24-2011 1:04 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
Granny, the kiss is abominable, but a kiss and diplomatic policy regarding support for Israel are not one and the same. Bush stupidly thought he could change radical Islamic nations. LOL.
I truly believe that Obama shares the desire of the Muslim nations for Israel's demise. That's pretty obvious.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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