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Author Topic:   We are DOOMED, Sat may 21, 2011
Trae
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Message 211 of 229 (617144)
05-26-2011 6:42 AM
Reply to: Message 209 by Dr Adequate
05-26-2011 2:20 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
Dr Adequate writes:
I don’t know that you meant that photo to be accurate, but even without knowing its providence, as a former digital imaging professional, I can say with a high degree of confidence it is a fake.
I'm not so sure. Here's CNN's video of Bush kissing Abdullah. It can't be the same incident, Bush is wearing a different tie, but my point is why would anyone fake a photograph of something that has actually happened, and of which to judge from the clicking of cameras in the video there must be about a jillion actual photographs, not to mention the video itself?
And here's video of yet another kiss.
Faking a photograph of Bush kissing Abdullah would therefore be a complete waste of time.
Who knows, maybe he normally keeps his eyes open and someone thought this would be more funny?
I recall news stories of him kissing people as per their custom. I don’t dispute that he’s kissed people, I dispute the image presented here.
I don’t have Photoshop on this computer, but at a glance, the shadow area on Bush’s right shoulder appears darker than the shadow areas on the other Muslim or background.
The shadow area on Bush’s right shoulder doesn’t conform to reality. Even if one supposes some odd angle of light, why doesn’t that angle cast a harsh light or hard shadow on the other Muslim?
There’s a blob on what is supposed to be the right shoulder of Bush’s jacket. This is consistent with a poor attempt create a shoulder out of an image which has an object in the foreground of the jacket. I suggest the object is possibly the collar of the jacket of the person he actually kissed.
Bush’s right eye is in shadow how could one light Bush without him either casting a shadow on the other Muslim or the other Muslim casting more shadows on his own face?
There’s a line running under Bush’s chin and over to his color which actually extends out from his neck. The most reasonable explanation is that it is a poor attempt at a masking one image of Bush into another. This indicates that the original background was darker.
The other Muslim has a large nose, but it seems doubtful to me that Bush could put his nose and lips where located without Bush’s cheekbone being pretty much where the other guy’s right lens is.
There’s a halo around Bush’s hair (most noticeable where his hair meets his jacket). This is more consistent with one image being feathered into another than it being a case of the hair being backlit.
Image artifacts. If you blow the image up in your browser to 200%+ you should see much less artifact noise on the Bush area of the image. If you’re unfamiliar with artifact noise it is a type of pixilation, which in this image appears mostly where the white of the headdress edges against other colors. You can see it as a sort of patchiness in many parts of the Muslim. The loss of data in the patches tends to have the effect of corrupting the color of images. This is more pronounced when the colors are saturated and we see a bit of that here in this image. For instance in the shirt there is some added green hues, and in the face some coral. Presumably when merged the Bush portion of the image either had more original data or had not suffered as much data loss though compression.
The Muslim shows signs of additional unsharp masking, where the Bush image appears not to have been.
It is problematic that the Muslim seems more overall in focus while the image of Bush seems slightly out of focus. Both the Muslim’s near and far eyes seem more in focus then either Bush’s eyes.
****Edited to add****
After writing that it occurred to me to see if I could find the source.
The image used was used on this page:
hermes-press.com - contact with domain owner | Epik.com
If one scrolls down the section above Jihad you can find this other kiss which even at a glance one should see is a fake.
Edited by Trae, : Added a couple of links.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 212 of 229 (617145)
05-26-2011 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 211 by Trae
05-26-2011 6:42 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
The flaw in your otherwise ingenious hypothesis is that it implies that someone on the internet has wasted their time doing something entirely pointless.
I think we all know how unlikely that is.

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Granny Magda
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Message 213 of 229 (617148)
05-26-2011 7:53 AM
Reply to: Message 211 by Trae
05-26-2011 6:42 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
Hi Trae,
I don’t know that you meant that photo to be accurate, but even without knowing its providence, as a former digital imaging professional, I can say with a high degree of confidence it is a fake.
Does it matter? I chose that particular image, even though I was somewhat dubious of it, because it made my point and because I thought it was the funniest out of the many pictures of Bush getting his freak on with the Saudis. The image itself is not the point, nor is the kiss. The point is that Bush is cosy with the House of Saud, one of the most evil gatherings of despots on the planet. He was diplomatically close to them during his tenure as president. He was and is close to them due to his personal business relationships. All this despite that fact that Saudi Arabia is one of the top sponsors of Islamic terrorism and the centre of Wahabbi Islam, one of the most repugnantly extreme and intolerant forms of Islam.
If you're concerned about the photo, fine, but this one makes my point just as well;
Should Bush be castigated for this? Well, perhaps. But the fact is that all US presidents have to cosy up to unpleasant foreign powers. It's part of the job. Buzsaw's hysteria over Obama is misplaced.
Mutate and Survive

On two occasions I have been asked, — "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage

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Trae
Member (Idle past 4384 days)
Posts: 442
From: Fremont, CA, USA
Joined: 06-18-2004


Message 214 of 229 (617208)
05-26-2011 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 213 by Granny Magda
05-26-2011 7:53 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
Granny Magda writes:
Does it matter? I chose that particular image, even though I was somewhat dubious of it, because it made my point and because I thought it was the funniest out of the many pictures of Bush getting his freak on with the Saudis...
Not so much to me, which is why I asked if you meant for it to be accurate.

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fearandloathing
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Message 215 of 229 (617232)
05-26-2011 6:01 PM


Will you be Raptured

"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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Taz
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Message 216 of 229 (617314)
05-27-2011 1:56 PM


Interview with Harold Camping
This is an audio only interview of harold camping after the rapture date.
Notice how he does not take any responsibility at all of people losing all their posessions for this event. He said "we are not in the business of giving financial advice..."
Incredible...

  
New Cat's Eye
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Message 217 of 229 (617341)
05-27-2011 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by Dr Adequate
05-26-2011 7:33 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
The flaw in your otherwise ingenious hypothesis is that it implies that someone on the internet has wasted their time doing something entirely pointless.
I think we all know how unlikely that is.

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 218 of 229 (618203)
06-02-2011 4:29 AM
Reply to: Message 215 by fearandloathing
05-26-2011 6:01 PM


Re: Will you be Raptured
If you use condoms or contraceptives you won't be raptured.
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

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frako
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Message 219 of 229 (618204)
06-02-2011 4:44 AM
Reply to: Message 218 by DevilsAdvocate
06-02-2011 4:29 AM


Re: Will you be Raptured
Even though i am an atheist i would love to see the end of the world and the rapture to see how many of these idiots get left behind

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Straggler
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Message 220 of 229 (618334)
06-02-2011 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by New Cat's Eye
05-27-2011 4:46 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
CS writes:
I don't get it. Where is the joke.....?

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 221 of 229 (618392)
06-03-2011 7:05 AM
Reply to: Message 219 by frako
06-02-2011 4:44 AM


Re: Will you be Raptured
Yes, unfortunately this guy is for real.
It makes me sad that some people are so freakin stupid.
However, if anyone can provide a good incentive to become an atheist or agnostic it is this idiot.
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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Panda
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Message 222 of 229 (618397)
06-03-2011 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 221 by DevilsAdvocate
06-03-2011 7:05 AM


Re: Will you be Raptured
DevilsAdvocate writes:
Yes, unfortunately this guy is for real.
It makes me sad that some people are so freakin stupid.
However, if anyone can provide a good incentive to become an atheist or agnostic it is this idiot.
That is hilarious!
Shouldn't you have posted that in the Humour thread?
quote:
"Don't be dumb
Rapture comes
Long before the seventh trum"
"World War 3
You'll have no 'lectricity"
"Antichrist.
He's not nice."
Too funny!!

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Taz
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Message 223 of 229 (618515)
06-03-2011 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by DevilsAdvocate
06-02-2011 4:29 AM


Re: Will you be Raptured
That guy claims to be the third eagle, the co-prophet of end times. Here is a video of him predicting Obama's downfall.
Edit.
By the way, according to this guy, WW3 will occur in 2017.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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Buzsaw
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Message 224 of 229 (619652)
06-10-2011 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by frako
06-02-2011 4:44 AM


Re: Will you be Raptured
frako writes:
Even though i am an atheist i would love to see the end of the world and the rapture to see how many of these idiots get left behind
Biblically, you will not see the end of the world, but may, indeed, observe the rapture, Our foreign friend, Frako, receive Jesus, as saviour and lord of your life to be prepared or be providentially punished as apostate.
Edited by Buzsaw, : add word, "foreign."

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Coyote
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Message 225 of 229 (619658)
06-10-2011 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by Buzsaw
06-10-2011 9:51 PM


Re: Will you be Raptured and other myths
I think some of the Native Americans had things figured out pretty well:
Lo, the poor Indian! whose untutor'd mind
Sees God in clouds, or hears him in the wind;
His soul proud Science never taught to stray
Far as the solar walk or milky way;
Yet simple Nature to his hope has giv'n,
Behind the cloud-topp'd hill, a humbler heav'n;
Some safer world in depth of woods embrac'd,
Some happier island in the wat'ry waste,
Where slaves once more their native land behold,
No fiends torment, no Christians thirst for gold!
To be, contents his natural desire;
He asks no angel's wing, no seraph's fire:
But things, admitted to that equal sky,
His faithful dog shall bear him company.
From Pope's Essay on Man

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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