We are DOOMED, Sat may 21, 2011

He's in hiding so as not to get lynched. For rapture there should be a an outfit of clothing with billfold driver's license, car keys and all in a heap. Haven't heard anything about that.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Haha first of all I have no comment regarding your belief. I've come to respect you. May be it had something to do with me being delerious for a day from the flu...That said, how come people have to leave their clothes and stuff behind like that movie the vanishing on 7th street?

Actually, he has gone to the Riviera to celebrate Charlatan's Day.

Are you aware that their Arab neighbors, about 20 to 1 in population are capable of building up their own territories? Why should tiny Israel need to do their work for them when their primary interest is driving Israel into the sea? The Palestinians don't even show Israel on the map in their schools. They don't want peace with Israel. Look on the map at all of the Arab land, but they want Israel after the Jews went in and turned a desolate land into a fruitful and fertile industrious land.In 1500 years the Arabs have made nothing of their vast territories. Why do you think they will now?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Bullshit Buz.There were thriving communities in Palestine before the creation of the Israeli State and what is under discussion is the territory that Israel is occupying, as a terrorist foreign invader.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Gulp! Thanks Taz. I'm taking that at face value. We get nice snow white robes for the trip up. You have to arrange for them ahead.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

I think you missed my point. You are going back to an "eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". The reason for doing it is because that Is what Jesus says we're to do, and as Jesus is the fulfillment of the Hebrew scriptures that is what Israel should do.Read again the quote that I used from Matthew 5 above. That is the message that we get consistently through the Gospels. Love our enemy, turn the other cheek, go the extra mile etc.Paul in his letter to the Ephesians gives us the weapons that we have been given and are to use. Why not at least give Jesus a try.

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10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore , take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. 14 Stand firm therefore, HAVING GIRDED YOUR LOINS WITH TRUTH, and HAVING PUT ON THE BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, 15 and having shod YOUR FEET WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE GOSPEL OF PEACE ; 16 in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18 With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints, 19 and pray on my behalf, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel,

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We are made in God's image we aren't supposed to make him in ours.

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Everybody is entitled to my opinion.

Oh. Can we see a picture of some of them? So GDR thinks they need Israel's help to do it in their own territory What are they building up in the lands of Ammon and Edon? I would guess the Ammonites and Edonites faired ok there back in the old days. What do you think?Maybe some of their friends like Iran, Syria. Iraq, the Saudis or Jordon could spare them a plot and lend them a hand. No?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

That quote is for Christian believers, GDR. It's not addressed to nations. It's a non sequitur.When I predicted more bad stuff for the US, I really hoped it would be later than sooner. I said it could happen the next day, but didn't really expect it to come that soon. I hope nobody here is from Joplin.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Try not to get too excited. I'm still waiting for people like you to either die of old age or get raptured. My newfound respect stems from my realization that aside from hunting you down there's nothing I can do to make you go away.

Dang, I thought I was harsh. You should realize that Buz is the whetstone that allows us to sharpen our knives.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

How was what I said harsh? In fact, it was a compliment. I practically said I wish him live to die of old age or be raptured up to heaven, either should be his preference of death. We're all going to die. It's how we go that matters, right? And I just wished him to go either by old age or rapture.Fact remains that I disagree with him wholeheartedly on just about everything. I think people like him hold society back by centuries as far as progress is concern. I think the world would be a much much better place without people like him keep holding us back. And I'm sure he's got the same feelings toward me as well. I don't mind.In fact, nowadays, I often fantasize about dividing the country into 2 sections. Let the conservatives have their own country. They can ban interracial marriage and reinstitute segregation all they want. Heck, they can even make it illegal for you not to be a christian for all I care. If they want to create a perfect golden age christian society, I say let them. I'm sick and tired of having to read the news only to see more christian nonsense take over our politics.

I hate to be critical but I think Buz that you should spend some time reading the Bible in big chunks so that you get the context. The Hebrew Scriptures were all about the story of Israel as a nation. It was about Israel as a nation being given God's message of loving your neighbour, how they more often than not abused the message, the story of exile and exodus from both Egypt and from sin, with their story climaxing in the birth, life, death and resurrection of Jesus as told in the NT.Jesus fulfilled the Hebrew scriptures and established His kingdom, his church to be His agents of His restorative love and justice for the world. We are called to act in community.Jesus continuously called for His people, first centuries Jews, the Jewish NATION, not to respond militarily to the Romans as it would only lead to disaster which it did.Here is another quote from the sermon on the mount in Matthew 5.

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13 "You are the salt of the earth ; but if the salt has become tasteless, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men. 14 "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden

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We are to be the New Jerusalem, the new city on the hill. It isn't all about individuals. It is also about cities and nations. It was the Pharisees, amongst others that were agitating to overthrow Roman rule in Judea. It was the Pharisees that Jesus was constantly at odds with for this as well as for their legalism.I quote from my favourite author says that, "if you fight evil with evil, evil is bound to win".As G K Chesterton said:

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Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried.

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Maybe it is time we gave it a tryWe aren't to fudge Christianity into what we want it to be. We are meant to take it as it is. We are to take Jesus at His word. Again from Matthew 5 - the Sermon on the Mount:

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for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous

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Stuff happens. What you are doing is attributing evil to God. That is not the God that we see incarnate in Jesus Christ. That is a god of vengeance, not the Christian God of restorative justice. This is where God is in Joplin. He is in the hearts of those that are caring for and loving the victims of that disaster. His heart grieves for all human suffering. Edited by GDR, : No reason given.

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Everybody is entitled to my opinion.

So... we should have signed a treaty with Nazi Germany and let it exterminate all the "undesirables" as well as leveling Russia?Sorry to invoke godwin's law, but your quote is as meaningless as... I can't even find the word to describe how nonsensical this quote is. Sure, it sounds nice and all, but it has no bearing for reality.

Presumably God was aiming for the White House. Instead he hit the most Republican town in a Congressional district with a Republican Congressman, in a state that voted for John McCain.God --- he's wrathful but inaccurate. You want to watch out, he might smite you for my sins.