Fox news = false news

It had been set to go into summation at 300 messages. I suspect this setting was done quite a ways back (years?), when it was customary to close topics at about 300 messages to prevent malfunctions from happening.Adminnemooseus

It appears that the Conservative echo chamber is in full effect. They send out baseless conspiracy theories, and then when they hear those theories repeated back to them they cite it as a source.

There was a (anti-Semitic ) publication, in the pre-internet days, The Spotlight, which had a pretty decent amount of readers in conservative country.It made a big deal about some strange, but important, issues, apparently.One was the (still ) confusing issue of the (long rumored to be Israeli ) bombing of the US Liberty ship.President Johnson was rumored to have said "I want that damn ship sinking " on a three way phone call with military officers ( all during the attack ).I never paid much attention to the issue for some reason.But I was watching a documentary, Terrorstorm, by Alex Jones, a decade ago. He has talked to the generals involved ( including those on the phone with President Johnson ), and the strangest thing is that Johnson did order the stand down and seemed to have ordered (?) the self inflicted attack.The Israeli pilot, who did the attack, has come out too. He refused orders 3 times to engage the American vessel, but gave in when threatened with court martial.Nobody knows why this was done, but it did happen in a way much like the conspiracy theories indicated.ALSOA candidate for the Democratic Presidential Primary got 496,000 votes (out of around 9 million cast ) against Clinton in 1996, but was blacked out by the media.Big media stars in the 2004 Democratic presidential Primary, Howard Dean and General Wesley Clark got 894,000 and 536,000 respectively. They were the front runner candidates for the last 6 months of 2003 just before the 2004 voting saw Kerry and Edwards shoot ahead. The primary had a much higher vote total too. 16 million in the 2004 primary verses 9 million in 1996.Dean got just under 5.5% got a little more than 3% of the vote. (Kerry got 61%)The blacked out 1996 candidate got 5.47% against Clinton (88.98%)The blacked out candidate ran against Gore and Bradley in 2000.He got 11% in Oregon (Gore got 85%)He got 22% in Arkansas (Gore 78%)8.24% in Idaho ( Gore 75.72%)5.85% in Oklahoma ( Gore 68% Bradley 25%)5.55% in Alabama (Gore 77%)5.11% in New Jersey (Gore 94.89%)4.53% in Pennsylvania (Gore 74% Bradley 21%)Got 4.1% in Washington DC (Gore 95.9%)Got 3.42% in Texas (Gore 80.24% Bradley 16.34%)A total blackout that caused most Democratic voters to not have a clue that this individual ever existed. And that was the actual election day circumstance!We wonder why Americans are so ignorant on the one hand THEN ( a different group of Americans ) so conspiracy filled in the head on the other.I don't wonder.I accept global warming and evolution, but understand why people think every institution is dishonest. Think about it for a while. The public has a self righteous media constantly in its face, lecturing people about endless moral issues ( including campaign finance issues ), while the word has mostly (?) gotten around what a bunch of liars the news organizations have been and are.Enough people know that the media is extremely dishonest and it has contributed monumentally to the BAD GOVERNMENT we are always living under.

What are you going on about?

Saw this article this morning in the Guardian:"Negativity bias: why conservatives are more swayed by threats than liberals"There is a study that suggests that US conservatives may be more likely to be swayed by news (and fake news) about threats than US liberals.

This is now 2017, long after Riverrat left the Forum and yet the same issues are perhaps even more important today than we were aware back then.Today is June 5th, 2017---and i just awoke from a lucid dream--one of those inner sub-conscious scramblers. Wonder of wonders, what was on my mind? None other than EvC, Donald Trump, fake news, etc etc etc....
The stuff Faith argues in support of (which is her freedom of speech, after all!)
Now, I have no idea why I awoke thinking practically the opposite of what I usually think. I found (and find) myself trying to defend the possible actions of Donald Trump. And don't get me wrong. I am a moderate. I have never been against globalism nor the liberal agenda...though I DID always want what was ultimately best for Phat regardless of WHO was in power. I have feared the conservative ultra-nationalism of Trump and the Tea Party supporters...who are in my opinion looking after their OWN selves and their OWN kids at the expense of the common global good.So I woke up and found a spot to air my opinion on EvC at 308 am. Not surprisingly, I found a thread that YOU started, jar. I am grateful to you for sharing your early testimony about learning how to think and ask questions, for it has been in my mind ever since. You also emphasized responsibilities over rights, and the US pulling out of the Paris agreement, though symbolic, seemed to me to be more of a Trump crowd pleaser and emphasis of Tea Party Rights and not so much Responsibilities.Allow me to think like the other side thinks, if i am able.Problem: Trump flies foreign dignitaries to his own Mar-A-Lago resort on a regular basis and profits off of the transaction.Hypothetical Trump Response: "Oh please! Obama and the liberals have their own group of globalist cronies and governments that are tacitly supported. The difference which irks a lot of people is that I (Hypo Trump) am supporting myself and other wealthy Americans rather than wealthy Leftist foreigners. Would you rather spend government money to support people whom cannot possibly help you or would you rather keep the money in the family?"Now...for the record, I dont agree with Faith that leftists are all globalist and anti nationalist...nor that globalism is totally evil while US nationalism keeps the money in the "family". I DO believe that money itself is going to come under some intense revision in our future, and I would wager that Trump also knows this and perhaps would even blame the "globalist agenda" for attempting to level the playing field.The battle for hearts, minds, and intelligence also includes a global battle for control of assets and wealth. As you know, I don't prefer to be poor under any circumstance...no matter how many more get fed due to my sacrifice. (Pray for me regarding this inner fear and selfishness)After all, as you once told me, I am part of the problem in that I cared not to ask questions nor accept responsibility for improving the system. I'll admit that you were correct, jar.Perhaps as we move forward in this topic of what real and fake news actually is, we can all learn to ask questions and attempt to defend our arguments by imagining how our opponents think.Here are some questions:
1) Why does Trump shun traditional media when it confronts him? Why is his open motive to placate his base of support? WHO is Trumps base of support? What type of people are they, by and large?2) What are the implications of "keeping it in the family"? WHO is the family? Is it US Nationals? Is it wise to attempt to take care of ourselves first before being cooperative with the rest of the world?

Im gonna have to read it! Perhaps liberals trust globalism more so than conservatives who wish to keep the money here.

But is this true? I would research it more. Alex Jones only represents one side..You seem to think that the media is a threat to freedom of speech."Word gets around"...on the other hand...due to freedom of speech yet how can truth be found among rumors and innuendo?

In 1996, a political extremist promoting bizarre conspiracy theories ran for the Democratic party nomination. He did this every election - 1996 would be his fifth consecutive attempt
(and not the last). Weirdly, this was not considered a major event by the press.

"A candidate for the Democratic Presidential Primary" gets his/her name blacked out by LamarkNewAge. Moose

Report: Fox News Contributor Leaves Network He Calls ‘Propaganda Machine’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo

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A Fox News contributor announced in a lengthy and scathing email to colleagues that he had not renewed his contract with the network, which he called a propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration, BuzzFeed News reported Tuesday.

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Retired Lt. Col. Ralph Peters wrote in the email, which BuzzFeed obtained and published, that he felt Fox News is assaulting our constitutional order and the rule of law, while fostering corrosive and unjustified paranoia among viewers.

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More there.MooseAdded by edit: I restored the Buzzfeed link to where it belongs in the above quote. Go there to read entire e-mail content.Edited by Minnemooseus, : Put Buzzfeed link in where it belonged.

it took him this long to figure it out?Sad.

The will just lable him as "disgruntled"