Mythology and Belief of Anti-Theism

The "reality" of any basis for religion?We know where religious thought comes from, Jon. These threads are full of that evidence.We know the veracity of the religious texts are highly suspect. Even biblical scholars attest that most of the books of the bible were written over many generations by many different scribes, and they can sometimes identify each author's embellishments.We know the penchant for humans to exaggerate to extremes with each re-telling of some story until the simple human basis in fact is lost in superstitious supernatural myth.We know that there are no facts, none, which support any kind of supernatural entity or occurance. We have seen all too often the politics and the human motivation for power that leads religious cults to arise.The "reality" is so weak that whether there was a Jesus of Nazareth or not is openly disputed, and if there was, given the numbers of massiah-wannabes around during that time, he was most certainly nothing more than a religious zealot with a message and a following but nothing more.From all the evidence available over the millenia we know that religions (all of them) are made up from long embellished fairy tales ascribed by believers from acculturation, wishfull thinking and with weak critical thinking skills.These are the facts we have. This is the reality of religious history throughout all of human history. It's all BS, Jon.And we haven't even begun to list the harm, the attrocities, the evil religion has perpetrated throughout our species' history.There is nothing wrong, irrational, unreasonable or improper in calling bullshit just what it is. And given the disparity in the weight of the evidence, all versus absolutely none, there is nothing wrong, irrational, unreasonable or improper in slamming the philosophical door on a supposition that has no rational reason to exist.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : more spelin

A bit testy, anglegard? Misplace your sense of humor I see.I found the Frog's post to be quite funny. Good show, Crash. Based on what? Certainly not the evidence.We have a very good idea where god concepts came from. We have the area of the brain, the stimulation protocol, we have the psychological triggers that produce the delusions and even an evolutionary explanation for their existence. We have the history and the vast array of different and competing conceptions of thousands of such godz all attesting to the variety of human cultural imagination. There is just a boatload of evidence from physiology, chemistry, psychology, paleontology (and the list goes on) affirming spirits, ghosts, devils and godz from human psychological and political origins.On the other side we have ... nothing.So why do we even consider the possibility of some god(z) existence? Out of some misguided attempt to follow the letter of the philosophy of Science? Do we really need to entertain as possible every figment that bubbles up from human imagination lacking any evidence at all for efficacy?Indeterminate? No. The question does not even arise.All the evidence (indeed the only evidence) shows that god(z) exist only as products of human imagination. Until there is anything viable to show otherwise there is no opposite position in existence. There is nothing about which to contemplate let alone to be agnostic.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

So if we hold that there is a galactic deity in the image of a jovian planet made entirely of Philadelphia Brand Cream Cheese (with chives) and she made and controls all life in this galaxy while her sister Cream Cheese planets do so in other galaxies and each millennium they all get together to play croquet in the eighth dimension then you think we should be agnostic toward this deity?When do we call totally un-evidenced speculations "bullshit"? Are we meant to give due credence to every whim that pops into every human mind?

If we have no knowledge of such a thing then why entertain any notion of efficacy? There is nothing to be agnostic about if the matter has no reason to exist. I'm confused. A whim pops into my head (Cream Cheese Deity) and I relay its image to you. You have no knowledge of this thing on your own so your very question is "why should we not be agnostic on the matter?"Is this not giving due credence to my whim and by extension then to every whim?