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CS, you have a very naive attitude about this. No, I just hate cops 
Let me explain again. There are ways to report an incident with every individual fact stated accurately but to have the overall picture completely wrong. In this instance, it is very hard for you, the civilian, to prove otherwise. Why? (1) It's your word against a cop's. (2) If they ask you about it, you will have to confirm every detail in the report even though it is arranged in a way to make you look guilty. Take a look again at Henry Gates, for example. According to the police report, he was interfering with police investigation and disturbing the peace. Well... technically that's true. But then if you really look again at the case, you can't blame a man for trying to explain that it's his own home he broke into. The police report also said Gates was loud and overwhelmed the officers. While both the recordings and witness reports confirmed otherwise, I actually saw no lies at all in the report. Why? Because in this instance, the cop was reporting on how HE felt at the time. God knows how he really felt. Well sure, but that's what I mean. Cops are liars who will do whatever they can to get you incriminated because they just want to solve a crime and don't care about justice or peoples' rights.
The point is if they come for you, you're going to have trouble proving to people that they are lying because technically they're not. They're just presenting the facts in a completely different light and paint a completely different picture of the events than what actually happened. The best thing to do is allow them to have as little facts to distort as possible. Simply refuse to talk to them and tell them to arrest you if they need you for anything and then they can get it through your lawyer.
I'm just warning you as a friend to be careful about this. Well thank you. But I'm just not going to bother with them. Take me to jail or leave me alone. I don't have anything to say.
Why do you think Asians have such a hard time proving certain racism against them? Because their food is so delicious? 
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Dogmafood writes:
Perfect answer from someone who's never been trained or involved in a fire fight. Primarily, because Jose did not discharge his weapon.In the real world, you don't wait for the other guy to shoot you first. That's liberal commie mumbo jumbo bullshit. They were comming for him. Them shooting first makes this an assault and they should be put in prison. According to your logic, he should have started shooting at them, right?
Worst that could happen to normal people is a slight inconvenience and a pissed off feeling. The worst that could happen to a cop is his life.  You might wanna re-think that statement in a thread about a guy getting killed in his home by the cops... Anyways, nobody is forced to be a cop or joins without understanding the dangers. Its a part of the job.
Again, say there are knives flying in your direction and they got a 1 in a 100 chance of hitting you. How comfortable do you feel? I dunno, did I decide to become a knife dodger as my profession?
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Did you miss the memo where they got a court order and info that this could be a violent drug dealer? Heh, according to you they think anybody could be a violent drug dealer  But anyways, they still don't need to go to his house and start a firefight. They should establish contact with him before rolling in with the guns. It can be done without giving him the opportunity to flee.
We now know that (1) it's more than likely that it was bad planning on the part of the higher ups and Don't they count as "the cops" too? I not really blaming the feet on the street (so much)...
(2) it's beginning to look like they got the wrong house/person. That just makes them look worse.
The swat didn't know that. Yeah, it does suck for those guys. As much problems as they're still are with it, I do understand "just following orders".
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Oh quit being such a whiny little bitch. You're getting to be about as bad as Theodoric.
Since when did we become a strict authoritarian state? Since the cops decided that maintaining authority was more important than justice and the civilians' safety. Did you see those dancers get arrested at TJ memorial?
I think many offenses are forgivable and can get away with a slap on the wrist. Most of such offenses were committed either by mistake, absent-mindedness, or just plain stupidity. But not speeding 7 miles over the limit.... You do that exact number on purpose because its the most you can go while still feeling comfortable that you won't get pulled over. You're attitude still comes off as hypocritical even if your point technically was not. You feel that you can determine which laws you really don't have to follow, yet you want to throw other criminals on an island because they "don't deserve to breath the same air as you". Disgusting.
But there are offenses that we know for sure weren't a mistake when they were committed. In fact, they were committed through careful planning and malice. Again, going 7 over is not a criminal offense by any stretch of imagination. But still not a mistake and committed through careful planning and malice. Regardless of the severity of the crime, you're attitude towards law itself is still comming off as hypocritical. As if only criminal laws are the ones that you have to follow and the other ones you don't have to if you decide that your breaking of it isn't that bad and that you should really just get away with it 
Just like a motherfucking cop!
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And according to crashfrog and CS, apparently there's no difference between me speeding 7 over and this guy's lifetime of criminal activity. Now who's the liar? Or are you just stupid?
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