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cavediver
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Message 135 of 262 (620276)
06-15-2011 4:21 AM
Reply to: Message 133 by GDR
06-15-2011 2:09 AM


I'm just saying that it seems to be ok for science to speculate about other universes and dimensions but when a Christian does it is called flawed reasoning.
When we talk about extra dimensions and "other universes" we are not doing so from pure speculation but from the constraints of theoretical research and its associated mathematics. When I say "extra dimension" I know precisley what I mean, and how this relates to current knowledge of space-time and the Universe. No-one outside the field has those contraints, and thus such speculation is erroneous from the start.

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cavediver
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Message 144 of 262 (620645)
06-19-2011 5:24 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by Omnivorous
06-15-2011 7:27 AM


Re: How Atheists Saved Philosophy
Perfectly put, Omni.
Following my deconversion, I have found myself drifting further and further towards the strong-atheism position. This may be seen as a natural "re-bound" but the fact is that the more I consider any concept of deity*, the more (philosophical and physical) contradictions I find. The rational tentativity I hold for my statement "there are no planets in the Universe where one might find that 2+2=5" is of the same order as that I hold for my statement "there are no gods".
*obvious exclusions are naturalistic "deities" such as the creator of the particular Matrix/"universe we in a test tube" we may inhabit - and such a "natural" creator is indistinguishable from a deist's demiurge/Prime Mover.

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