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Panda
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Message 7 of 73 (618934)
06-07-2011 6:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Chuck77
06-07-2011 3:59 AM


"Chuck77" writes:
It seems when it comes to Creationists claims they are often refuted with "prove it" or "show some evidence".
Does this seem unreasonable to you?
A claim without evidence is just simply that: a claim; a bare assertion.
It wouldn't be accepted in a court of law and it is not sufficient in science either.
"Chuck77" writes:
Since most if not all of what Creation scientists come up with will not be peer reviewed by the "real" Scientists then all we have is Evolutionists saying "PRATT" to new posts or comments. The only "evidence" Evolutionists will take is from the "real" Scientists.
When people accuse an argument of being a PRATT they are not ignoring evidence: they are saying that the evidence presented has been examined and found to be false - many times. It is not a refusal to accept 'real' evidence - it is an insistence on evidence being valid.
Would you accept that god was dead if someone provided a photoshop'ed picture of a dead bearded man? No, you wouldn't.
Is that because you refuse to accept 'real' evidence? No. It is because you would not accept false evidence.
"Chuck77" writes:
Also, most evolutionists like to say they have Science and evidence to back up their claims and we have the Bible or silly Creationist websites.
And those websites often declare that they will never accept any scientific conclusions that contradict their interpretation of the bible.
Do you think that is a valid way to do science?
"Chuck77" writes:
If the Evolutionists will never take our evidence serious what's the use?
You seem to be under the misapprehension that 'evolutionists' are atheists. Even Darwin was a christian.
Scientists will look at any evidence, but they will not accept faulty evidence - and nor (I hope) would you.

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Panda
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Message 30 of 73 (619290)
06-09-2011 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by GDR
06-09-2011 11:14 AM


GDR writes:
If you are interested there is information around that refutes Dawkins book. Here is a book by Alister McGrath that is well written.
The Dawkins Delusion
quote:
As a Christian who takes this debate seriously I am almost insulted at the level of argument that is presented by the McGraths. Since reading the God Delusion I had been hoping someone would take on Dawkins. I was extremely disappointed to find that this book falls far short of its claim to do exactly that.
quote:
Why was he only able to come up with 96 large print pages against Dawkins's 400 page behemoth? I left the book feeling that McGrath hadn't really tried to respond to Dawkins. He feels like he just gave up half way through. The majority of "The God Delusion" remains completely unmentioned, unrefuted.

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Panda
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Message 33 of 73 (619332)
06-09-2011 1:59 PM
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06-09-2011 1:32 PM


GDR writes:
Michael Ruse wrote this:
quote:
The God Delusion makes me embarrassed to be an atheist, and the McGraths Show Why.
How much worth do give his words, if you bear in mind that Michael Ruse is not an atheist?

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