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Topic: A fatal logical flaw in creationism?
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SRO2 
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Re: Big Words
The sky isn't blue. Particles in the atmosphere filter the white light from the sun except for blue end of the spectrum. Just being a smart ass.
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SRO2
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Re: You're getting there
Damn it! Are you sure? Maybe they weren't honest Athiests/Evilutionists. By the way, isn't it illegal to publish private IP addresses? I understand that it's just a way for you guys to keep records of spammers/trolls locations...but jerks as they may be, I think you're giving out their private info to hackers that can access their machines with that. IP addresses are like peoples SSI numbers.
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AdminAsgara
Administrator (Idle past 2329 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined: 10-11-2003
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Message 168 of 214 (102217)
04-23-2004 4:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 167 by SRO2
04-23-2004 3:58 PM
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Re: You're getting there
IP addies aren't necessarily unique. edited to add - and you will notice that when an IP addy is given, it isn't the full address [This message has been edited by AdminAsgara, 04-23-2004]
AdminAsgara
Queen of the Universe
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SRO2
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Re: You're getting there
Cool. I've seen it done lots of other places. Just curious about it.
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HoonWoo
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Re: There had to be a first!
Des writes: Just as some of you don't care that there are gaps in the theory of evolution,I don't care how the world tries to disect the scriptures I'm getting tired of this. If only you think more than you write... Contradictions are important coz they can shoot down theories and laws. That's why I do not accept your religion. To ignore contradictions is to be dishonest with yourself. Gaps on the other hand may be challenging but are not contradictions and hence do not disprove any theories or laws. There are so much evidence for TOE that it takes faith not to believe in it. But belief are not absolute thruth. Those who seek absolute thruth are furthest from the thruth. So please, seek practical and logical thruth!
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 504 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Re: Big Words
I'm pretty sure that by the time I finish graduate school I will be as cranky as you 
The Laminator
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Adminnemooseus
Administrator Posts: 3976 Joined: 09-26-2002
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Message 172 of 214 (102230)
04-23-2004 4:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 166 by SRO2
04-23-2004 3:27 PM
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'Smart Ass' Rocket - Close to suspension again
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Just being a smart ass.
Shooting for suspension number three? You really close. Behave yourself. If you reply to this message - your gone. From Rocket and others (and I'm not meaning Desdamona) - There's a lot of off-topic GARBAGE being posted. STOP IT! Adminnemooseus
WHERE TO GO TO START A NEW TOPIC (For other than "Welcome, Visitors!", "Suggestions and Questions", "Practice Makes Perfect", and "Short Subjects") Comments on moderation procedures? - Go to
Change in Moderation?or
too fast closure of threads
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: There had to be a first!
desdamona One thing that might help you is to undestand that there are many, in fact very many, Christians that find no conflict or issues with either evolution or the age of the Universe. Those of us who are here are also available to you as a source for relating Science and Christianity.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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desdamona
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Message 174 of 214 (102264)
04-23-2004 6:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 170 by HoonWoo
04-23-2004 4:10 PM
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Re: There had to be a first!
Right. I know there are what appears to be contradictions in the Bible, and there appears to be many at first after being around the bible a while, however, I have looked into these things, and I have learned that they are not real contradictions,now that is true for me, I cannot say how another person would view it all. I hated Algebra, it didn't hate me. If I do my very best to learn it, I am sure I'd like it, or at least handle it better. Josh McDowell has a good book called: Evidence that Demands a Verdict. It can help those who really like the bible, but believe there are just too many contradictions. When I first tried to look at Darwins ideas, It appeared to me that he contradicted himself all over the place, until I had more material to look at. Most of us are Biased to some degree, and there are those so called Christians who do twist the words of Darwin for their own gain, but thats not going to score them any points with an Holy God. I am not religious, although I respect many who are. I'm not in a religion at all. Being Christian can mean religion to some. I'm in a faith based relationship with God. I don't believe what man says about God in their own words unless it lines up with the bible. Preachers who stray from the ancient words of scripture cannot be trusted. Many say that man wrote the words. True, we know they did, yet we also know that they had to write what God wanted them to write. I don't frown on science at all, or medicine, I really like them. Science is very interesting to me and to many christians. I personally always thought that explosions destroyed life, not create life, but the big bang idea needs futher study in my case.
Desdamona
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desdamona
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Message 175 of 214 (102266)
04-23-2004 6:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 173 by jar
04-23-2004 5:04 PM
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Re: There had to be a first!
As I have mentioned many times, I have no conflict with science. I believe what the bible says, that is true, but I don't feel that it conflicts with all science or scientists. If you want me to understand Science better, I understand that too, and I am getting there. I don't believe that God and science conflict with one another. Everyone has their own interpretation of Science just as they do about the bible, but it's up to each one of us what we can and cannot accept as fact. Many Scientists do not agree with one another.
Desdamona
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Re: There had to be a first!
desdemona, Do you accept evolution or not. It is sciences CENTRAL theorem for biology. Mark
"Physical Reality of Matchette’s EVOLUTIONARY zero-atom-unit in a transcendental c/e illusion" - Brad McFall
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desdamona
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Message 177 of 214 (102270)
04-23-2004 6:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 170 by HoonWoo
04-23-2004 4:10 PM
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Re: There had to be a first!
Also,the choice in which theory to accept becomes a matter of faith. I don't have enough faith to believe that random particles arranged themselves into ordered life.
Desdamona
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: There had to be a first!
But there is where you may be missing something. You mentioned quote:
Everyone has their own interpretation of Science
but that is simply not the case. There are not multiple interpretation of Science and it has nothing to do with what somene can or cannot accept.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: There had to be a first!
No. It is not a matter of FAITH. In fact, if you really want to understand Science, understand that Scientists have no faith in any theory and that the only thing they do is to show that the theory is wrong.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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desdamona
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Message 180 of 214 (102275)
04-23-2004 7:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 176 by mark24
04-23-2004 6:52 PM
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Re: There had to be a first!
I believe that you accept evolution and that you should be allowed to enjoy that, and have what you honestly believe to be true. I cannot say that I hate evolution. I believe that good, honest, descent people believe in it, and that they are not a threat to those who don't actually believe in it. Remember, we are not trying to change another person's belief system, it's more likely that we are trying to understand one anothers way of believing. I don't have a problem with others who do believe in evolution. At the stage I'm at now,I honestly do not accept it as fact in my own life.
Desdamona
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