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Coyote Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
And you will provide this TRVTH from ancient tribal myths and superstitions? Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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A minor correction: ID was "created" after creationism, then creation "science", were disallowed by the courts. Here is part of the evidence for that: Missing link: “cdesign proponentsists” In fact, creation "science" and ID are the exact opposites of real science. Real science follows the evidence where it leads, while religion has to follow belief and dogma in spite of the evidence. And religious apologetics is used to try to mask over the differences. Sorry, you can't fool us that easily. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Do you actually know anything about C14 dating? Ever collected and submitted any samples? Ever written on the subject for peer-reviewed journals? (I have collected and submitted over 600 samples, and written several articles and one monograph on the subject; along with numerous lectures.) Why don't you find one of the threads relating to C14 dating, or start a new thread, and we can explore your knowledge of the subject in more detail. I am familiar with sample collection and interpretation, while another poster here, kbertsch or some such, is expert in the laboratory aspects of the technique. I'm guessing you won't accept this challenge because you know nothing more than you've read on creationist websites, and they are lying to you. Now you are caught out in their lies, so you'll duck and weave, or ignore this entirely. For creationists, business as usual, eh? Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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You challenged the method itself:
Now either put up or shut up. Let's see what you actually know about C14 dating. Do you want to retract your ill-informed statement? Or do you want me to start a new thread in your honor? Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
So the C14 method works when it supports relics from Israel, but not when it supports other events in the past? As I suspected, you know absolutely nothing about the C14 method. You're results oriented, not informed about the science behind C14 dating. I should have known. You're caught out in your ignorance. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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It looks like their unusual interpretation of this and other words is necessary to reinforce for their beliefs in the bible's accuracy. If the words don't make sense the way everyone interprets them, why, just change the meaning of the words! Because of course the bible can't be in error. We see this same nonsense in other threads as well. No matter what the evidence the bible can't be wrong, so they twist and manipulate words and concepts, and ignore what they have to, until everything works out the way they want. This is the exact opposite of science, where we do our best to make our terms and concepts clear and to follow the data where it leads. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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My HUGE problem with creationist thinking:
Creationists don't think per se, they believe! Everything else is apologetics in defense of that belief. This is why words need to be twisted, facts ignored or misrepresented, and why evidence makes no difference to them. And this is why debating them is so frustrating. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
From Wiki: Asexual reproduction is a mode of reproduction by which offspring arise from a single parent, and inherit the genes of that parent only, it is reproduction which does not involve meiosis, ploidy reduction, or fertilization. A more stringent definition is agamogenesis which is reproduction without the fusion of gametes. Asexual reproduction is the primary form of reproduction for single-celled organisms such as the archaea, bacteria, and protists. Many plants and fungi reproduce asexually as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
To make your point, you have to establish a time frame for sexual reproduction vs. asexual reproduction.
Have at it. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
This may make sense to you, but I'd guess it doesn't make sense to more than a handful of people worldwide. Your faith in the bible has crossed into the certifiable range, and you have totally lost touch with reality. Per parental advice from long ago, I won't be picking on you further in this thread. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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