And with the usual, boring predictibility, IamJoseph returns to his stale, unconfirmed bullshit with no evidence and no sources.
You still fail to answer the question.
Let me break this down into the smallest words for you.
You have said that over 70% of the Hebrew Bible has been scientifically verified.
HOW DID YOU GET THIS NUMBER?
>>>70%<<< This one. How did you get this number?
Where are your sources? How did you work out that 70%, not 30%, not 90% but 70%.
PROVE IT!!!
Where did you get 70% from?
lets have another go at your other claims. Another round of me asking you for evidence and sources and you not supplying them, me proving you wrong and you moving the goal posts and you finally, without actually proving anything, declaring victory as if you have put forward a decent arguement.
When you have written a reply to this, go through this checklist.
1. reread to see if it makes sense.
2. reread to see if you are using any of the word i have helped define for you incorrectly.
3. Research your own claims to see if they stand up to even casual scrutiny. Check to see if your facts are actually facts.
This next one is the most important and the biggest problem for you.
4. Add supporting evidence. This will come in the form of a quote from a reputable document with the source attached.
lets try and do this properly.
This is the start of your claim :
The Hebrew bible marks the first recording of a host of factors and is unique:
First of all, you need to confirm what you mean by unique. If something is the first, it is unique until something similar or the same comes along. This would mean that anything that is first, is unique at that time. Would you like to clarify.
You are going to need to supply the date that you can support with evidence that the Hebrew Bible is from. Using the Bible itself as a source is unacceptable. You will need to provide the earliest recording of the Hebrew Bible that includes the thing you are discussing. That way, when I show you something prior to that date, you will know that you are incorrect.
So, things you believe appeared first in the Hebrew Bible.
1. The universe is finite.
How exactly is this phrased in the Bible (include chapter and verse) and how did you reach the conclusion that the verse means the universe is finite. Also, you are assuming that this is correct. Please provide your evidence that the universe is finite. Exactly how far away is its edge? Dont forget your supporting scientific, peer reviewed evidence.
2. The first listing of life form groups [species]
Please provide the chapter and verse that has the word species.
3. The intoruction of the DAY & WEEK.
Plese provide the chapter and verse.
4. The oldest active calendar [5770]
Please provide where this calendar appears in the Bible. Chapter and verse. An supply what you think a calendar is.
5. The first recording of a host of historical items [Mount Ararat, the Tigris, Goshen, Mount Nebo], and ancient nations [Midianites, Moabites, Philistines]; the first kings [Nimrod, Ramseys], the first alphabetical book, the first cencus, the only source for the history of Abraham and Israel.
I will break this one down.
"The first recording of Mount Ararat, the Tigris, Goshen, Mt Nebo"
Supply chapter and verse. Also, it would not be surprising if a book written about guys wandering around the middle east mentions the names of local landmarks.
"The first recording of [snip] ancient nations [Midianites, Moabites, Philistines]"
Again, chapter and verse. Again, a book about these people will probably be the first to mention these people. Tolkiens book was the first one to mention Hobbits, what does this prove? Fuck all. But i would like to test you anyway.
"The first recording of [snip] the first kings[Nimrod, Ramseys],"
again, chapter and verse. Can you be a bit more specific here. Do you mean that the Hebrew Bible was the first book to mention kings, specific kings, these specific kings.
The Hebrew Bible was the first alphabetical book. I have had this discussion with you before. As have others. With each dispute to your claim, you alter the definition of alphabetical or book. So I am going to ask you 3 things. 1. define alphabetical book. and 2. Tell me how a book with an alphabet you approve of is better than gyphs or pictograms etc? and 3. Why is the physical shape of a book better than scrolls, pictogams in walls, words pressed into clay etc? Also, provide the link to the copy of the first Hebrew Bible that fits your description of alphabetical book (and the year it has been dated to).
The Hebrew bible contains "the first cencus"
Provide you definition of census and also provide the chapter and verse that matches your chosen definition.
This last one is pretty funny really.
The Hebrew Bible is "the only source for the history of Abraham and Israel".
So the book that is the history of abraham and israel is the only source for history of abraham and Israel? Do you realise how stupid that sounds. It also argues against your case. If the Hebrew Bible is over 70% proven and is so factual, wouldnt you think that some other writer may have mentioned something about them?
But, this should not be too hard to disprove either.
To disprove that claim, all I need to do is find any other document that relates to Abraham of Israel. Do you really need me to do this or do you realise how stupid your statement was and either concede the point or rephrase.
Now, REMEMBER THE CHECKLIST!!!
Can you do that?
Can you at least give me some sign that you have read the checklist and understand why those things are required?
Edited by Butterflytyrant, : No reason given.