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Author Topic:   Information's role in evolution.Should we put it more in the picture?
Nuggin
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Message 44 of 192 (621631)
06-27-2011 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by zi ko
06-27-2011 12:50 PM


Empathy is a type of information. It follows the same paths as information does. And the same mechanism.
It starts functioning as the organism gets neural tissue.
The antilope may die, but the watching other members of family or tribe still live and they transfer the information by empathy.
The CF example has nothing to do with my theory.I dont deny mutations not either natural selection. These cases are explained as before.
Show me a print out of the amount of information transferred in this way as read by an information detector.

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Nuggin
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Message 65 of 192 (621730)
06-28-2011 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by zi ko
06-28-2011 12:17 PM


Re: Information's role
OK. How do you suppose is being done? By information transfer or otherwise?
Natural Selection.
Do you deny natural selection? Do you have a specific objection to it?

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Nuggin
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Message 69 of 192 (621780)
06-28-2011 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by zi ko
06-28-2011 11:23 PM


Re: Empathy is atype of information
Empathy is a type of information, that it is what it is specifically transferred to genome, because it has allways an emotional flavour and acts over many generations.
Ridiculous.
Show me, IN THE LAB, how "empathy" is passed from generation of E. Coli to the next.

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Nuggin
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Message 75 of 192 (621795)
06-29-2011 1:39 AM
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06-29-2011 12:57 AM


Re: Empathy is atype of information
There is not empathy in bacteria, but there are chemicals, the enginnering systems (precursors of neural tissue) and maybe others as well.
So, natural selection leads to evolution.
However, you are claiming that other things lead to natural selection even though you don't have a mechanism for it, AND when we point out things that don't have even the concept you are pitching, you admit that they aren't subject.
Basically you have nothing.
I'm getting bored.

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