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Author Topic:   What is the creation science theory of the origin of light?
Minnemooseus
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Message 258 of 297 (627775)
08-04-2011 3:55 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Butterflytyrant
06-28-2011 10:52 AM


The creationist scientific theory of the origin of light
Please supply the scientific theory of how God created light when he said "let there be light".

God was involved in initiating the process that is the mainstream scientific explanation of the origin of light.

Please include the testable elements of the process by which light was created.

The same thing that is the mainstream scientific process of doing such.

Include evidence supporting this theory.

It's he same evidence that mainstream science supplies to support their theory.

So, the creation science theory and the mainstream science theory is the same thing, except the creationist belief is that God was involved.

Moose


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Minnemooseus
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Message 272 of 297 (627884)
08-04-2011 10:32 PM
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08-04-2011 10:33 AM


Re: The creationist scientific theory of the origin of light
So, the creation science theory and the mainstream science theory is the same thing, except the creationist belief is that God was involved.

It can't be the same for a YEC because they don't allow for the billions of years that the scientific explanation of the origin of light requires.

The start of this topic said nothing of YECism. YECism conflicts with reality right from the Y. Who cares what their theory of the origin of light is.

There is an abundant supply of people, including the deists, that believe in some variety of Godly creator without having any problem accepting the scientific explanations of how things came to happen.

Moose


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Minnemooseus
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Message 273 of 297 (627885)
08-04-2011 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 259 by Butterflytyrant
08-04-2011 6:30 AM


Re: The creationist scientific theory of the origin of light
So, the creation science theory and the mainstream science theory is the same thing, except the creationist belief is that God was involved.

Thats a pretty big difference. One uses magic, so is no longer scientific.

So it is not a scientific theory.

I'm not invoking any magic. My creator hypothesis is something tacked onto the beginning of whatever is the scientific theory - Back in that unknown realm of the ultimate beginning of the universe as we know it.

And yes, I use the term hypothesis. It is a hypothesis without support of any evidence and it is a hypothesis that may not have any possibility of falsification.

Why do you think that a creationist needs to have his own theory? Why can't a creationist be allowed to accept the scientifically supported theory?

Moose


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Minnemooseus
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Message 279 of 297 (627988)
08-06-2011 12:33 AM
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08-05-2011 8:00 AM


The young Earth creationist ideas of the origin of light
The topic only makes sense if its for dscussing the YEC explanation for light.

Admin supplied a quote of the first three verses of Genesis back in message 243:

Genesis writes:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3 Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.

To state that the Earths creation was prior to lights creation is in itself a departure from known reality. This topic is asking for the theory of how light was first created, after the Earths creation. It's asking how something that didn't happen happened. Thus, the topic makes no sense in the context of young Earth creationism.

Now, IF Genesis had started as follows:

Not the real Genesis writes:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens.
2 Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
3 Then God created the Earth.

Then you might have a position in which to discuss the creation science theory of how God created light. And that theory could be such as what I presented back in message 258 - The creation science theory is the same as the mainstream science theory, with the added unsupported hypothesis that God was somehow involved back in the very beginning.

Moose


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