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Author Topic:   Who designed the ID designer(s)?
Brad McFall
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Message 35 of 396 (138242)
08-30-2004 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Loudmouth
08-30-2004 3:21 PM


Re: lets get back to the topic
Yes-
I have a bit of a problem here.
It is clear TO ME AT LEAST, perhaps because I studied a little bit with Will Provine that HE IS refering PM Shepard's claim on any selective limits but that due to special creation refering to Phillip Johnson's "views". Now Phil J. is an IDer unlike me and yet I see reasons that Shepard misunderstood the relation of attribute to continuous data dialectically. It is all very dark indeed. This was the problem of the "older generation" of e/c thinkers.

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Brad McFall
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Message 115 of 396 (209821)
05-19-2005 9:45 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by crashfrog
05-19-2005 9:38 PM


What things within are not subject to cause and effect?
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Brad McFall
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Message 117 of 396 (209824)
05-19-2005 9:56 PM
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05-19-2005 9:50 PM


How do I know that any given atom is within me?
On that reasoning I can not know, yet you permit the parts of said material some effect.
So, I guess you mean't to foil a 20th century concept of "cause and effect"?
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