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Author Topic:   Who designed the ID designer(s)?
KKawohl
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Message 49 of 396 (208506)
05-15-2005 10:34 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Loudmouth
09-09-2004 4:25 PM


The Designer Is The Result Of Evolution
IMHO, The Intelligent Designer Proclaims:
I Am The Intelligent Designer.
I did not come from nowhere.
I play no magic tricks on man.
I did not create the earth by casting spells.
I had a humble beginning the same as man;
My beginning was at the dawn of spirituality.
My wisdom grows as more spirits unite
After the cessation of life after much physical strife.
Throughout time I have been named God,
Allah, Jehovah, The Great Spirit, and many more.
I do not judge man for his vanity or naivety
To be the one who claims to please me the most.
I am easy to please. I require very little.
I only want you to do what is best for mankind.
I will bless you and wish you well.
I will inspire your mind and you will
Accomplish the unfathomable.
I require no worship. I need nothing from man.
I am self sufficient. I am spirit.
Develop your spirit wisely, the best that you can.
Live your life for the betterment of man.
Your spirit will soon be with me and then
Together we will see and traverse the universe.
There are many wonders to behold,
Your spirit will soar.
You will partake in all the wisdom
That has been gathered from the beginning of time.
The stars will be your playground.
You can play with the animals,
Be with your loved ones,
Listen to the greatest opera,
Stage or musical performances,
Or you can just relax next to a bubbling brook
And enjoy the scenery.
You feel no pain, despair,
Heartache, or negative emotions.
You are now One with me.
You are with the SPIRITUAL UNITY my child.

"I Am A Transcendentalist"

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KKawohl
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Message 54 of 396 (208607)
05-16-2005 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by RAZD
05-16-2005 7:17 AM


Why do people shy away from the concept of connecting an Intelligent Designer with ev
Our, or alien spirit initially evolved into the ID.
Our spirit lives in a body that contains the mind that contains the spirit within the subconscious; it records our life experiences. The spirit grows & expands & upon physical death this spiritual energy is released & continues as individualized or united spiritual energy. It is this spiritual energy that initially created the ID.
See transcendentalists.org
Kurt

"I Am A Transcendentalist"

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KKawohl
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Message 68 of 396 (208671)
05-16-2005 1:34 PM


O.K guys, stop ignoring me.
Your opinion would be appreciated to my opinion of who designed the ID designer. (wow, that's confusing)
IMHO, ours or alien spirit initially evolved into the ID.
Our spirit lives in a body that contains the mind that contains the spirit within the subconscious; it records our life experiences. The spirit grows & expands & upon physical death this spiritual energy is released & continues as individualized or united spiritual energy. It is this spiritual energy that initially created the ID.
Einstein said, "Everyone who is seriously interested in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universea spirit vastly superior to man, and one in the face of which our modest powers must feel humble."
According to some scientists in New Delhi recent research, the biomedical part of life can be created through advanced applications of molecular biology and organic chemistry. But what really happens is that when the cells find out that they have to be part of a union, they communicate among themselves and form a larger life form. The process continues. While the process propagates, energy in the form of electromagnetic flux forms as a concentrated form of clustered energy. That clustered energy survives even if the physical body of the artificial life form is destroyed. The energy cluster is actually part of a larger cluster, which can be viewed as part of the whole universe.
The life as we know is collection of cells with a union that is governed by that electromagnetic flux of energy. The energy is indestructible. The energy in the whole universe is interlinked and is part of a huge integrated infrastructure. It may even extent to multiple universes and dimensions.
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/1666.asp
Kurt

"I Am A Transcendentalist". Transcendentalism Today = Balancing Science and Religion http://transcendentalism.us

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KKawohl
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Message 70 of 396 (208683)
05-16-2005 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by NosyNed
05-16-2005 1:54 PM


Re: O.K guys, stop ignoring me.
I apparently missed your answer on this thread which asks, "Who designed the ID designer. What is your opinion?

"I Am A Transcendentalist". Transcendentalism Today = Balancing Science and Religion http://transcendentalism.us

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KKawohl
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Message 77 of 396 (208764)
05-16-2005 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Limbo
05-16-2005 2:38 PM


Re: O.K guys, stop ignoring me.
I agree that due to the Indian scientists articles' seemingly metaphysical implications, it would be dismissed out of hand by our ever objective, scientific community....but I wouldn't consider our scientific community to be completely open-minded....metaphysical is based on abstract reasoning as is the theory of evolution.
In the theory of relativity, the intuitive notion of time as an independent entity is replaced by the concept that space and time are intertwined and inseparable aspects of a four-dimensional universe, which is given the name space-time. Einstein sought unsuccessfully for many years to incorporate the theory into a unified field theory valid also for subatomic and electromagnetic phenomena. In recent years, we have learned that up to 95% of the Universe is made of a type of matter or energy that we cannot see nor understand. Gravity may ripple across the Universe in waves, and certain cosmic rays, atomic particles moving at near light speed, possess an energy far greater than that which can be explained by modern physics.
If modern physics is stumped, can we completely dismiss everything that is considered metaphysical? Any and all of our scientific facts known presently are applicable only to this physical third dimension. The existence of a fourth dimension its still being vastly debated. If we represent thought and emotion which is not physical, as being spiritual, we must then accept the existence of another, a fourth dimension where these processes thrive. Our mind, thought, truth, intuition, intelligence, appreciation and awareness are all aspects of a spiritual fourth dimension. With the evolution from life forms in the third dimension we can then deduce the possibility of a cumulative spiritual existence, an ID that came about through life in the third dimension. Sure, it's a theory but so is evolution...but can we completely dismiss all testimony of man's spiritual interaction?
Kurt
P.S. I agree that if I had read about someone's spiritual interaction I myself would be extremely skeptical, but humor me and see transcendentalists.org
This message has been edited by KKawohl, 05-16-2005 06:06 PM

"I Am A Transcendentalist". Transcendentalism Today = Balancing Science and Religion http://transcendentalism.us

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KKawohl
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Message 78 of 396 (208769)
05-16-2005 6:14 PM
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05-16-2005 5:45 PM


I agree that it's mundane, unoriginal, political thinking that leads one to conclude that if there is a designer, it MUST be the Christian God or a God of any one religion exclusively. Religions have become the culmination of their own politics and dogma and are often something other than spirituality.

"I Am A Transcendentalist". Transcendentalism Today = Balancing Science and Religion http://transcendentalism.us

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KKawohl
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Message 81 of 396 (208794)
05-16-2005 7:17 PM
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05-16-2005 6:58 PM


Re: Why do people shy away from the concept of connecting an Intelligent Designer wit
What exactly is entrophy? Entropy is measure of disorder or unavailable energy in a system (thermodynamics). Eutrophy is proper development.

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