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Author Topic:   The Ultimate Question - Why is there something rather than nothing?
Stile
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Message 58 of 366 (625106)
07-21-2011 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Black Cat
07-21-2011 11:54 AM


...but it doesn't look designed
Black Cat quoting William Lane Craig writes:
So in the case at hand, in order to recognize that intelligent design is the best explanation of the appearance of design in the universe, one needn't be able to explain the designer.
This may be true.
However, there are two problems when using this line of reasoning in context of the creation of the universe:
1. The universe does not appear to be designed.
2. In order for the not-looking-designed universe to fit some strange concept of "designed", a very specific and practical definition for "designed" would have to be provided. You seem to have omitted the part where William Lane Craig has done this.

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Stile
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Message 71 of 366 (625130)
07-21-2011 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Black Cat
07-21-2011 12:51 PM


Context
Black Cat writes:
Am I not allowed to reply to one of Dr A's initial thoughts?
You're allowed to reply to, or post, pretty much anything you can think of.
The only restriction is that you do so on-topic.
But, even if your thought is not on-topic, all you have to do is find a thread where it is on-topic, or start a new thread.
I have to admit my response to your reply would be drawing things ever further off-topic.
If you'd like to discuss why you think the universe appears designed, you can possibly fit it into the following topic:
Message 1
...if you have any input on how ID should be properly pursued (because the Proper Pursuit of ID is the theme for that thread).
You could post in this thread about how/why you think identifying design is the proper method for pursuing the ID theory/ideas.
...or you can create your very own new topic if that doesn't fit into where you would like the discussion to go.
This may seem strict, but really it's only fair.
Imagine if you started a topic on how to prove God really existed but people only talked about how God is different from Allah... you wouldn't be able to discuss what you wanted to discuss. Because this topic was started by Dr Adequate, we need to discuss what it is Dr Adequate is attempting to focus on. Really, it's only polite.

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