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fearandloathing
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Message 18 of 284 (625976)
07-26-2011 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by New Cat's Eye
07-26-2011 3:49 PM


Re: You don't get it.
It's not gay if your pitchin or if it is a hustle.
Assuming bi-sexual people exist, you could have non-homosexuals with the idea that arguments could convince people to engage in more homosexual acts.
There might be some people in prison who engage willingly in homosexual acts that wouldn't do so under normal circumstances maybe for money or protection. I guess you could say they got talked into, or talked themselves into it.

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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fearandloathing
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Message 20 of 284 (625978)
07-26-2011 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by hooah212002
07-26-2011 4:05 PM


Re: You don't get it.
I wouldn't even agree that engaging in homosexual acts could alone make one homosexual, namely with the example you provided.
I agree, that's why I made a little joke 1st. But I am sure there are lots of people who commit homo acts who aren't gay, porn stars, hookers...They may not be gay but got talked into doing a homosexual act, most likely for money.
Sexual preference shouldn't even be an issue in this day and age, JMO.

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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fearandloathing
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Message 22 of 284 (625985)
07-26-2011 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by New Cat's Eye
07-26-2011 4:18 PM


Re: You don't get it.
Yea that's probably why no one ever, far as I know, would ever use that as evidence that you can be turned gay, its just a hustle for porn stars and some prisoners hookers/lot-lizard ect...

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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fearandloathing
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Message 26 of 284 (626013)
07-26-2011 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by ZenMonkey
07-26-2011 5:47 PM


Re: You don't get it.
I think that people are a lot more flexible sexually than is commonly accepted in our culture. Sexual interest and desire exist on a continuum, with lots of shades of gray
How true, let me give a little example, we are all adults so no offense intended if this might be too graphic...
I have a close friend whose marriage got screwed up because he wanted his wife to get a strap-on and do him, to be to the point. There is more to it but basically he liked his butt to be played with and his wife thought that made him gay. After they split up he even experimented around and came to realize he wasn't gay...just wanted his girl to strap on and.... he finally found a girl was into that kind of thing.

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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fearandloathing
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Message 30 of 284 (626025)
07-26-2011 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Nuggin
07-26-2011 7:26 PM


Re: You don't get it.
CS writes:
Assuming bi-sexual people exist, you could have non-homosexuals with the idea that arguments could convince people to engage in more homosexual acts.
Nuggin writes:
If someone is already having homosexual sex, they are homosexual. Bi-sexuals are homosexuals who also still have sex with women.
Straight guys are having no sex with guys. So, there's no talking them into having "more".
I agree the word "more" is misleading, maybe?
Let me ask you what you think of people having gay sex for money? Could it not be said they were talked into performing gay acts, but not necessarily gay? Does this even matter?

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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fearandloathing
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Message 31 of 284 (626026)
07-26-2011 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Nuggin
07-26-2011 7:30 PM


Re: Pitchers are so gay
It was a joke, nothing more, as I have said before, hence the smile...

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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fearandloathing
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Message 32 of 284 (626050)
07-26-2011 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Taq
07-26-2011 7:39 PM


Re: You don't get it.
When you say "no" afterwards?
Well... it could be when you tell yourself, he/Jessica Simpson, really wants it and is willing. "He/ Jessica Simpson" may submit for many reasons, but you know it is not want he/Simpson really wants?? But you do it anyway.
Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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fearandloathing
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Message 44 of 284 (626182)
07-27-2011 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Taz
07-27-2011 4:00 PM


I think of BBQ....mmmmm Fresh pulled pork.
AbE.. and I am Jealous of its teeth...
Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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fearandloathing
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Message 76 of 284 (626842)
07-31-2011 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by hooah212002
07-31-2011 3:53 PM


Re: You don't get it.
I don't see why we need to label anyone at all? I am of the mind that if you must label someones sexuality then if you only have sex and/or feel sexually attracted to your own gender you are gay, if you only prefer the opposite sex then you are hetero, if you could go either way you are bi.
That is probably a little simple maybe when you take into account trans-gendered, cross-dressers ect....

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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fearandloathing
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Message 80 of 284 (626847)
07-31-2011 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by hooah212002
07-31-2011 4:03 PM


Re: You don't get it.
I understand your position, and agree, I should've responded to Nug. My only point being it is not such a black and white thing, many shades of grey in there too...along with a rainbow to maybe. Actually the rainbow is a very apt example of differences in sexuality. 3 types of color would never describe it properly.
Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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Message 85 of 284 (626857)
07-31-2011 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Nuggin
07-31-2011 4:44 PM


Re: You don't get it.
If they weren't full of themselves, then it would be "okay I'm gay. I have sex with women sometimes".
Does this not seem a little over-simplistic to you?

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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fearandloathing
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Message 106 of 284 (626913)
07-31-2011 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Nuggin
07-31-2011 7:18 PM


Re: You don't get it.
I guess I am confused to what you really think, is it either your homosexual or not, is this your belief?
If so then you are way off base, human sexuality cannot/should not be limited to only a gay or not view point anymore than it would be correct to say either you are Caucasian or not.
Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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