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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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'10,000' throng to stop Ground Zero mosque
Are they whining bitches too? I'm sure you would have protested and signed a petition to stop the mosque being built too."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
You didn't read Modulus' post, did you?
quote: quote: "Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
From Mod's Message 11:
quote: quote: quote: "Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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I don't have a problem with religious symbols on government property by the government. Of course not: you're religious and of the same religion in question.
which I don't support. Of course not: you're religious and your religion is one of the popular/accepted ones in the country. Do you think other people of different/non religions feel the same way? Apparently not. But that's ok. As long as christians get their way, everyone else should just shut up, right?"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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Get back under your bridge, troll. You just can't help but call people names, can you? How old are you?
No, I'm not religious and there's nothing wrong with it. Oh? So you're an atheist now? Might want to change the name to "Atheist Scientist" then.
I don't think anyone should care, really. And that's your opinion..... The simple fact of the matter is is that they are using a religious symbol to honor the people who died. There are people who are offended by that symbol (myself included). The government should not have a stake in putting up religious symbols. If you don't care, that's fine (that's what great about this country: you can voice your opinion). But if you want religious symbols put up, they NEED to be privately funded. Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given. Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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not because of its religious value became a symbol of spiritual comfort As a christian, is a star of david or a crescent moon "spiritually comforting" to you in any aspect?"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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A number of non-christians have spoken out that they do not find any comfort from this symbol.
The cross is a symbol of xianity. The only people who would find any significance from a cross are christians. Saying it is a spiritual symbol and not a religious one is ludicrous. Does any other spiritual group of people find spiritual anything in the cross? It is "spiritual" for christians. I ask again: do you, as a self defined christian, find spiritual comfort in the star of david or crescent moon? A simple yes or no will suffice.
(other than to troll me)... That word...I don't think it means what you think it means....."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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And that's irrelevant. So what? I don't like strawberry icecreme but I don't bitch about the parlor having it.... If your religion was only as important to you as what flavor ice cream you like, why hold it so dear to you or at all? I am quite certain that a large number of other people are a bit more serious about their choice of deity and how they get their "spiritual comfort".
Not necessarily. Perhaps you could name another group, then, that does find any spiritual anything in the cross?
I don't know, and it doesn't matter. On the contrary. Everyone but you sees the cross as an inherantly religious symbol. Using said symbol to memoralize anyone does an extreme disservice to those who do not follow that faith or "spirituality".
The cross was important to the rescuers and that makes it worth having at the site. Yea, the christian ones. What about the other people?"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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You didn't explain why your question, that I answered, was relevant to this debate. It was to point out that the cross is only comforting to christians. Chrisitans would normally not find spiritual reprieve in the symbol of a different faith.
You were just trolling, weren't you? Yes, CS, I was. This is all a big game I play.
What does that have to do with anything? It's called a response. It was in response to you likening your faith to ice cream.
Why does it have to be a religious group? Where did I say it had to be? I asked you to name a group of people who find spiritual anything in the cross. the point is is that the only group that comes to mind are christians. If you know if a different group, now would be a great time to mention it..... At the same time we CAN name groups of people who DO NOT find spiritual anything in the cross AND groups of people that take offense to it.
And aren't people free to find spiritual confort in anything they want? I never said they weren't. It's just that the only people who DO find spiritual comfort/guidance/whatever in the cross ARE CHRISTIANS. Whether they be weekend warriors or fundamentalists.
but realize that that is irrelevant because that's not the reason they are putting it there. So they claim. But it is odd they don't allow any other symbol......
How? And what makes it so extreme? See, here is the thing. Some people actually give a shit. So much so that they debate the issues. These people are not the typoe of people who liken their faith, or lack thereof, to flavors of ice cream. I know YOU don't care, but there are people who do not want to be represented by christianity.
There could be non-christians who find spritual comfort in it. Of course there could be. It's just that there doesn't seem to be."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
If their money goes toward the funding of it, they sure do.
"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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Must all of the museum pieces be totally void of any religious connotation? Since the museum is funded by the government and is not using pieces representative of every faith (I don't see a spaghetti bowl, light saber or Vishnu shrine), then yes, it should remain completely secular. From the OP's link (as much as I hate using faux news)...:
quote: "Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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I'm not entirely sure and it is not on topic.....
"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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If they do, are you cool with the cross then? If they are going to represent people of all faiths and those of no faith, then yes, I am completely ok with it. It is not that I do not recognize that some individuals find or found these steel girters "spiritually comforting", it's that it is only this piece (so far) that is being enshrined in a memorial of all the people who died."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Whoa whoa whoa, wait a minute.....I thought the structure had no religious value or implication and was just something that "provided spiritual comfort"?
"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1129 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Apparently it does for some, maybe the WTC museum should distance themselves from these nuts. Well, obviously those people that said those things aren't real christians....."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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