Group of atheists has filed a lawsuit

I wasn't sure how that would work, I skipped govt class too much I guess. Thanks for the info.

Would you support removing the Washington Monument because it is an obvious Egyptian symbolization of the sun god Ra?

i think it looks like a penis

Oh stop bragging.

Ouch!

Artemis suggests: This has of course been bandied about since it's conception (so to speak). The Washington Monument's shape was the contest winner for design and all entrants of note were MEN.When it came to the Vietnam Memorial contest, equal rights had advanced far enough to include women and, sure enough, this time a woman won.What did the USA get this time? ...a V-shaped cleft into the ground.Curious indeed.

Now that it has been said it is penis-like....is it the penis our government uses to rape lady liberty? Maybe the Vietnam memorial is a symbol of how the people who served got screwed, by our own govt, by that same giant penis that our government is.

If I were an atheist in the right Memphis, and Egypt a secular democracy--of course.

According to this report from the New York Post:

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The Second Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday rejected a bid by American Atheists Inc. to remove the famed cross-shaped steel beams that survived the 9/11 attacks from the National September 11 Memorial & Museum.

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And as I argued throughout this thread:

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[Given] the absence of any evidence of ulterior religious motives, and the undisputed historical significance of The Cross at Ground Zero, we conclude that, as a matter of law, the record compels the conclusion that the actual purpose of displaying the cross in the September 11 Museum is a genuine secular interest in recounting the history of extraordinary events,

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Edited by Catholic Scientist, : loose --> lose

They needed the cross 'cause the atheists got loose.

The power of Christ compelled them!

Overall, I think that is a solid argument, even as an atheist.At the same time, I think it is important for atheists to bring this subject to the forefront from time to time, although they probably picked the wrong battle on this one. Not everyone remembers that atheists are as much a part of the community as christians are.But we all need to recognize that personal expressions of religious belief or disbelief are part of our history, and that we need to record that history accurately.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Not really. You argued that a giant crucifix had "secular purpose" but were patently unable to express what that "secular purpose" was. Message 309 and up-thread from that.I believe it was I who said it was a blatantly religious symbol that held historical significance (AKA secular interest) to the events of 9/11 and that it's inclusion could thus potentially be justified on that basis.So nah nah nah nah.