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NoNukes
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Message 218 of 312 (677974)
11-03-2012 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by onifre
11-03-2012 4:17 PM


Re: Post-Napster fags
Enter Sandman is sick, Nothing Else Matters, Unforgiven, Sad But True, Wherever I May Roam...they're all pretty sick songs.
For those of us who aren't so cool, is "sick" music good or bad.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Message 219 of 312 (677975)
11-03-2012 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by foreveryoung
11-03-2012 4:04 PM


Re: Post-Napster fags
Now, if you copy music that has advertising you have to listen to before you hear it, that isn't stealing since the musicians get paid for the advertising.
Amazing what excuses people make for the stuff they do. Copying stuff beyond what fair use or the law allows and without permission is copyright infringement. And generally speaking, musicians don't own the copyright to the stuff you hear, and they don't get paid one cent for advertising.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Message 225 of 312 (677989)
11-03-2012 7:19 PM
Reply to: Message 223 by foreveryoung
11-03-2012 6:40 PM


Re: Post-Napster fags
Are you saying that listening to youtube recordings of music is stealing from the musicians?
Simply listening to the music is not copyright infringement. But making copies of music and distributing copyright protected material without permission is copyright infringement. (Unless protected by fair use or other exception). You can read the law here if you care to.
The overwhelming majority of stuff music on youtube was uploaded by regular folks without the copyright holder's permission. The uploading of entire songs, music videos, albums, and movies constituted infringement in the majority of those cases. Downloading that stuff to your hard drive also constitutes infringement in most cases. The advertisements on youtube benefit YouTube and Google and not the musicians or even their labels.
Google is protected by the DMCA (Digital Millenium copyright act) from being liable for the music that users upload provided that they take the music down as soon as the copyright holder complains about it. At least that is the case under US law.
I'm not going to tell you how to feel about your own activities with regards to copyright infringement. If you believe the law is unjust, or that you are sticking it to the man, or that copyright is simply corporate welfare, then that's what you believe. But I can point out what the law says.
You don't seem to have that kind of slippery morals. So for you it might be important to know where the advertising money goes. It does not go to the copyright holder with the exception of those cases where the copyright holder has a deal with Google. In most cases, there is no deal.
And no, I don't just play lawyer on the internet.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Message 244 of 312 (678071)
11-04-2012 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by foreveryoung
11-04-2012 8:48 PM


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I admit to knowing next to nothing about Metallica or about 'metal' in general. But I do remember that when the first album Metallica came out with after Lars rant about Napster people said that Metallica had figured out a way to make albums that were Napster-proof. Namely by making them bad. I'm guessing that album must have been St. Anger.
I can't really back up a claim that Metallica's makes 'corporate' music now. I can't stand any of their stuff. I like Motorhead, but generally heavy metal just doesn't grab me.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Message 276 of 312 (699036)
05-13-2013 2:30 PM


Not just another Bowie cover
Commander Hadfield is not bad. But it's location, location, location!
ABE:
Correction: On second listening: Hadfield's voice isn't great, but I still like this video.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

  
NoNukes
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Message 292 of 312 (769103)
09-16-2015 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by Theodoric
09-16-2015 9:20 AM


Re: Music for the road
David Gilmour's new album, Rattle That Lock, comes out on Friday. I have already prepurchased it.
For you try before you buy folks, Gilmour released a music video for "Rattle That Lock" that was distributed from his web page. It's also on youtube.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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