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Message 4 of 349 (627007)
07-23-2011 10:30 AM


So let me get this straight....Kent fucking Hovind accuses evolutionists of the Gish Gallop? How is that possible? Does he not know who it is named after???? Or is he just that deceitful?

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 22 of 349 (627025)
07-24-2011 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Buzsaw
07-24-2011 10:25 AM


Re: Gish Gallop & Confinement
The real challenge comes when a creationist gets a whole pack galloping at him and the debate mods egging them on.
You don't know what a Gish Gallop is, do you?
However, IMO, were it not for his creationist ideology Hovind would have been out on parole by now.
Ahh, good ole' xtian persecution. You christians have it sooooo bad.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 24 of 349 (627027)
07-24-2011 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Buzsaw
07-24-2011 11:27 AM


Re: Gish Gallop & Confinement
Buz, numerous people asking you for evidence is not an example of a Gish Gallop. Evolutionists are not, and never have been, perpetrators of any form of Gish Galloping.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 38 of 349 (627041)
07-25-2011 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by ZenMonkey
07-25-2011 10:48 PM


Re: Back to the original topic...
The problem is, it's hard to make the facts entertaining enough to hold most kids' interest
I can certainly attest to this. My son, ever the inquisitive being, asks me all sorts of questions. As a father, I hate telling him I don't know. I know it would be easier (and more fun) to tell tales of a magic wizard in the sky who makes it rain or created the earth (he asked me how the earth came to be. Try explaining planet formation and the big bang to a 7 year old). Science can be fun. It is fun. You just have to make it so and it ain't easy...

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 99 of 349 (627102)
07-31-2011 12:17 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by dwise1
07-30-2011 11:55 PM


Re: Debating creationists

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Message 114 of 349 (627117)
07-31-2011 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by IamJoseph
07-31-2011 2:16 AM


Re: Debating creationists
Here's a start: get the fuck on topic. See what the topic of the thread is? KENT HOVIND. This isn't a thread where you can show how little you know about any and everything. You can try that in other threads.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 117 of 349 (627120)
07-31-2011 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Buzsaw
07-31-2011 9:00 AM


Re: Hovind Singled Out
I believe the reason Hovind got busted is because of his notoriety as a creationist,
Was Willy Nelson a famed creationist as well? Did you ever stop to think that it maybe was because of the egregious income he took in? The authorities tend to look the other way when you are a poor sap. But when you rake in millions and millions, you kind of owe your fair share and the authorities take notice.
whether or not his science was well founded.
Rest assured that it wasn't.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 119 of 349 (627122)
07-31-2011 10:32 AM
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07-31-2011 10:18 AM


Re: Debating creationists
I quoted a statement made by the thread starter which appears deficient.
I know you think the world revolves around you. But alas, my response to dwise was not concerning you. Secondly, every word you have typed has been deficient. Every sentence you've composed has been horribly lacking in clarity.
Which, I suppose, isn't actually so far off topic. We can just use you as an example of how dishonest creationists are and how horribly they mangle debates. You've gish galloped your way close to EVC infamy.
Now, if you don't mind: I have NO intention of even trying to have any sort of discourse with you. Be gone from me.
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 124 of 349 (627127)
07-31-2011 11:19 AM
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07-31-2011 11:17 AM


Re: Hovind Singled Out
What do you mean he was "singled out"? Do you really believe he is the ONLY person who has been convicted of tax evasion?????

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 138 of 349 (627141)
07-31-2011 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by IamJoseph
07-31-2011 6:14 PM


Re: Logic dermands
there is indisputably more scientific vindication of a Creator than not so..
Close to 2k posts here and you've provided how much of this supposed evidence? (hint: the number is round in shape and null in value) Remember: bible quotes do NOT cut it. You should start a thread of your own that lists all of this un-disputable scientific evidence for some creator.
I won't hold my breath....

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 142 of 349 (627145)
07-31-2011 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by IamJoseph
07-31-2011 6:25 PM


Re: Logic dermands
The scientific evidence [as opposed hard proof] for a Creator is greater than its antithesis..
Ok, instead of just repeating this, provide the evidence.
the Hebrew bible..
....is a load of shit and has nothing to do with scientific evidence.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 143 of 349 (627146)
07-31-2011 6:36 PM
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07-31-2011 6:30 PM


Re: Logic dermands
There is no such thing as an old man with a white beard called CREATOR (or god, or designer)
There, I fixed that for you.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 147 of 349 (627150)
07-31-2011 6:45 PM
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07-31-2011 6:43 PM


Re: Logic dermands
No, you misunderstood. I asked you to provide evidence. What I did NOT ask was for you to to post assertions. You will also notice that I mentioned that you should do so in the appropriate place on the forums.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 159 of 349 (627162)
07-31-2011 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by IamJoseph
07-31-2011 10:42 PM


Re: Logic dermands
There is zero/zilch evidence of nature and/or natural causes. Nature is just a metaphor of the inexplicable, but it has become the leading deity of atheism.
Repro, for example, has no alignment with the nature deity; it is exclusively based on a program embedded in the seed transmitted by the host parents - exactly as stated in Genesis. Proof: let Mr/Mrs. Nature perform that feat w/o the seed factor - the only way atheism can sustain their claims.
In an effort to wrangle this topic back towards the OP, I will use IamJoseph as a prime example of how looney creationists are. Namely, this comment here:
There is zero/zilch evidence of nature and/or natural causes.
You heard it folks. Unless he is championing some form of solopsism, nature doesn't exist! There isn't anything natural. Everything we see is god's hand meddling in everything.
There is no feasible way to debate individuals who take this path.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 160 of 349 (627163)
07-31-2011 11:04 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by IamJoseph
07-31-2011 10:37 PM


Re: Logic dermands
You are confusing actions and occurences as a result of fictional, never witnessed phenomena.
I request you to start a topic on your beef with nature and your take on it. You seem to have a rather unique as to what you think nature and natural is......
Honestly though, you wreak of poe and a troll.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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