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ZenMonkey
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Message 7 of 349 (627010)
07-23-2011 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Coyote
07-23-2011 11:07 AM


Re: Debating creationists
I agree. Stepping on stage with any of these clowns - as if it were a contest between two evenly matched positions - gives them far more credibility than they deserve.
On the other hand, refusing to debate lets them trot back to their minions crowing about how no evolutionist is brave enough to go up against them.
Spam if you do, ham if you don't.

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric
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-Steven Colbert
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill

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ZenMonkey
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Message 10 of 349 (627013)
07-23-2011 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by fearandloathing
07-23-2011 11:55 AM


fearandloathing writes:
Maybe someone could get Dennis Markuse to write him, anything to drive him crazy, or crazier.
Maybe they could put Markuse/Mabus in the cage with him and then let the hilarity ensue.

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill

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ZenMonkey
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Message 37 of 349 (627040)
07-25-2011 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Butterflytyrant
07-25-2011 2:49 AM


Re: Back to the original topic...
Butterflytyrant writes:
I know that debating some creationists seems to give credibility to their arguements.
However, not debating them leaves them as unnopposed lecturers.
So the answer is to increase efforts to educate, especially among youngsters. Don't debate, lecture like they do without them in the room to blind the audience with bullshit.
The problem is, it's hard to make the facts entertaining enough to hold most kids' interest when creationists like Ken Ham or Dr Dino are free to just make stuff up. Go check out some of the videos on YouTube of Ken Ham doing his song and dance in front of gullible grade-schoolers. It's horrifying.

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill

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