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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
Unlike Hovind, I'm not a YEC either. However, IMO, his incarceration is completely unaffected by his beliefs.
Unlike Hovind, I'm not a YEC. However, IMO, were it not for his creationist ideology Hovind would have been out on parole by now.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
fearandloathing writes:
I was more trying to balance Buz's unevidenced opinion with another unevidenced opinion. (I think I need one more unevidenced opinion to win.)
I don't think Buzz knows that Kent has other cases pending, not sure what though. I was wondering why they had him in administrative segregation and now believe I know why now. I think it is common practice to do that to prisoners with cases pending, I could be wrong. fearandloathing writes:
I bet he used to complain about prisons being like holiday camps... I thought this blog of his is rather amusing, he whines alot about how bad it is. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Dawn Bertot writes:
Aaaww...do you not know? ...and how does the TOE interfere with the proposition of creationism or ID?Or are you being dishonest? quote:
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Dawn Bertot writes: Nobody is paying attention to your tantrums, but we pay very close attention to your unwillingness to respond specifically to presented arguments jar writes: Please present the evidence of the creator or the method used by that critter to influence evolution. Dawn Bertot writes: *nothing* We pay very close attention to your unwillingness to respond specifically to presented arguments.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
jar writes: Please present the evidence of the creator or the method used by that critter to influence evolution. Dawn Bertot writes: *nothing* We pay very close attention to your unwillingness to respond specifically to presented arguments.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Dawn Bertot writes: give this man the ability, time and skills to accomplish such a task It doesn't take much ability to find at least one point you have studiously avoiding answering.Jar has posted it several times. I have posted it several times. I'll post it again...
jar writes: Please present the evidence of the creator or the method used by that critter to influence evolution. Dawn Bertot writes: *nothing* We pay very close attention to your unwillingness to respond specifically to presented arguments.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph writes:
I put "host seed output" into google and only got one result: a message posted by you on this forum. Of note you have not referred to the only known and proven factor for re-pro: the host seed output!Why do you think that we will understand terminology that is not even in google? Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph writes:
So - I say that your terminology is unknown to me (and google) and your response is to ask me what I think your terminology means? How would you describe it? Do you truly think that your English is understandable?Why do you not believe us when we say that your English makes little sense? How many people would it take for you to accept that your grasp of English is very confused?
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Dawn Bertot writes:
We pay very close attention to your unwillingness to respond specifically to presented arguments.
Amazing, how is it you get away with no actual debating, no attempts at rebuttal and you are not required to address any issues involved in anyones posts, responses, questions or challenges You have no intention of debating. Maybe someone else in the form of a debator will pick up where you failed to start.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph writes:
Very well said [clapping hands enthusiastically]. But that's all you did. Saying so is not evidence.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NATURE - ACTUALLY. IT IS THE MOST UN-SCIENTIFIC PREMISE EVER DEVISED - IF TAKEN SERIOUSLY.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph writes:
Very well said [clapping hands enthusiastically]. But that's all you did. Saying so is not evidence.
I am not at all into any theology; I mention sections of Genesis only in an emperical mode. But I did more than just saying it - that is your position which I merely tried to point out. The scientific cause & effect premise is with Creationism; what have you got - name a scientific premise, as cause and effect cannot be allocated to a self propagating stream of nothingness as its alternative. Proof and dis-proof cannt apply to any of those two premises and is thus neutralized. We are left with only one alternative from a science POV: a complexity is the result of a source of wisdom, intentional and purposeful - else it is not borne of wisdom or intelligence; this is the reason I find Genesis more plausable; namely the cause and effect for a complexity is more aligned with a source of transcendent wisdom, than random selection. One of those premises is not scientific, yet widely accepted as such. Someone is telling fibs here, and passing it off as science! But scence itself is a post-universe phenomenon which never existed at one time: how could it when there was nothing around to apply science to?
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph writes:
You are the one making claims - it is your job to provide evidence.
Pls tell us why nature is more scientific than a creator? Note that physical proof and the observance of an already working system cannot be put forth as a valid reasoning. IOW, you cannot say the sun gives energy and sustains life as the causative factor supporting nature: these are mere observances, not evidences, which can more easily be allocated to a creator.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Dawn Bertot writes:
And you're a coward and never make an attempt at supporting your stupid assertions. Why you think that people don't notice is beyond me. And your a coward an never make an attempt at a rebuttal. Why you think people dont notice that is beyond me There is evidence of natural causes.Please present the evidence of the creator or the method used by that critter to influence evolution. Until you present evidence equal to the evidence of natural causes you have nothing. Since there is evidence that there are natural causes but no evidence of a creator or any method used by that critter to influence evolution logic demands that until such evidence is presented that the creator or the method used by that critter be simply disregarded. We pay very close attention to your unwillingness to respond specifically to presented arguments.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Dawn Bertot writes:
One, such as yourself, cannot be taken seriously if you do not respond to our posts and the particular arguments therein. Let us know when you are ready to be something other than a parrot. One such as yourself cannot be taken seriously if you do not respond to my posts and the particular arguments therein. Let me know when your are ready to be something other than a parrot Edited by Panda, : No reason given. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3970 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
He thinks that the anti-christ was born in 1935 - which means that the antichrist should be far into his retirement.
Phew - that's a relief. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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