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Author Topic:   Why Creationists' Willful Ignorance?
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Message 24 of 182 (628663)
08-12-2011 12:39 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by NoNukes
08-11-2011 9:24 PM


Do they really have a need to understand?

In MY opinion, yes, since they procreate. It benefits humankind. The less ignorant people we have running around, the better.

If that means they make poor decisions about economics, global warming, when to go to the doctor, or who to vote for, then so be it.

But what about when those people are loud about their ignorance? So loud that they justify the rest of the ignorant flock? There happens to be a large enough group of scientifically illiterate people that we have to have debates about scientific facts.....

If people choose ignorance, fine. So long as they are aware they are wrong. But those of us with the ability owe the human race to try and edumacate people (not saying I do that great of a job, but I KNOW I'm an asshole).


"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 32 of 182 (628707)
08-12-2011 10:58 AM
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08-12-2011 10:14 AM


Sounds like you have a need for others to understand.

Are you saying you do not see that need? If they were a small, non-vocal minority, I wouldn't see a problem. However, IMO, they are holding humanity back.


"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 36 of 182 (628713)
08-12-2011 11:19 AM
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08-12-2011 11:17 AM


It is not a need felt by the people you want to change.

I never said, nor implied, that I thought they did.


"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 38 of 182 (628725)
08-12-2011 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Butterflytyrant
08-12-2011 11:48 AM


Re: I think I see his point
Throughout history, even today, people have been educating people, even by force.

Except for the fact that nowhere did I advocate such a thing, or eugenics for that matter.


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Message 44 of 182 (628750)
08-12-2011 2:03 PM
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08-12-2011 12:07 PM


Re: I think I see his point
You will notice that what I did not say was:

that we owe it to the human race to rid these people of their ignorance.

but rather:

quote:
It benefits humankind. The less ignorant people we have running around, the better.

Both statements, while similar, carry far different implications. What you gathered from my original intent was at the opposite end of what I actually meant, which could have been garnered from the context and the words I actually typed.

Of course, if YOU think killing people and use of force is the only way to help someone, then I can see why you would assume that is what I meant.


"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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