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Author Topic:   Why Creationists' Willful Ignorance?
Pressie
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Message 56 of 182 (628994)
08-15-2011 6:05 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by IamJoseph
08-15-2011 5:37 AM


Going through the word salad presented, the following paragraph/ sentence/question stands out
IamJoseph writes:

NS and S of the Fittest also come from Genesis: the seed output from the host parents transmits the directive program which fosters and sustains life for its survival. Evolution is merely the wiring which conforms to the data of the translitted seed which acts as a chip in your mobile. Your mobile needs a directive program, right?

The whole word salad fails at the comparison of ‘seed outputs’,‘directive program’and ‘your mobile’. To put it bluntly; your analogy fails, because mobiles can’t reproduce. Life, however, can and does. Reproduction is the only way for life to ‘foster and sustain life’ that we know of. Mobiles don't do it.

Reasons are: a)My mobile does not reproduce. b)My mobile doesn’t have a ‘seed output’
c)My mobile doesn’t ‘ foster and sustain life for it’s survival’. d) My mobile can work on various ‘directive programs', not only on one.

Could you care to explain what you meant; preferably without the word salad?


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Message 60 of 182 (629004)
08-15-2011 6:42 AM
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08-15-2011 6:14 AM


IamJoeseph writes:

No word salad.

Yip, it was a word salad. I certainly don’t understand what you were saying; just a string of words that don’t make sense.
IamJoeseph writes:

Mobiles do not reproduce because they are not programmed to do so with a directive program.

Listen to yourself. A programme on a mobile certainly won’t let the mobiles to reproduce. Companies producing mobiles would love to hear how they can ‘programme’ a mobile to reproduce.
IamJoeseph writes:

DVD replication programs do - and not because of a thing called evolution.

You don’t understand the first thing about evolution, do you? DVD replication programmes don’t reproduce DVD’s. They produce the same programmes on DVD’s. These DVD’s don’t reproduce themselves.
IamJoeseph writes:

The seed factor is listed in hard copy text which introduced repro in the first scientific writings - not to be confused by deceptively simple ancient texts designed for all generation's understanding.

You love word salads, don’t you?
IamJoeseph writes:

The seed refers to the output of the host dual parents, a combination of a male sperm and female egg: A SEED SHALL FOLLOW ITS OWN KIND. Thus zebras reproduce zebras. Try repro without the seed factor - but without the word salad?

Try to get a mobile to reproduce. Then you can start your word salads again.

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Pressie
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Message 67 of 182 (629019)
08-15-2011 7:19 AM
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08-15-2011 6:58 AM


Panda writes:

To claim that our mobile phones could reproduce is beyond crazy.
But IamJoseph will refuse to admit that he writes utter nonsense.
I expect him to change the subject rather than confront how messed up his posts are.

Yes, I know, because he has changed the subject.

Is it worth even to try and have a rational conversation with people like him or her?


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Pressie
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Message 84 of 182 (629122)
08-16-2011 12:37 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Nuggin
08-15-2011 11:31 PM


Nuggin writes:

We're starting to think you might be mentally disabled in your ability to retain other people's arguments. It's almost like you don't understand that once you say something and it's shown to be wrong, it stays wrong no matter how many times you bring it up.

I concluded this about IamJoseph a long time ago. Therefore it's not worth trying to engage in a meaningful conversation with him.

From Ed Brayton

Ed Brayton writes:

Anyone who has dealt with creationists can tell you about the game of creationist whack-a-mole. Whack-a-mole is that game where you have a mallet and these moles pop out of various holes and you have to whack them with the mallet, but as soon as you whack one of them, another one comes up in another hole. It never seems to end. That is exactly what it's like dealing with creationists. No matter how many times you disprove a creationist claim, it simply pops up in another hole and you have to whack it all over again.


The 'mentally disabled in your ability to retain other people's arguments' also explains the willful ignorance of a large percentage of creationists very accurately. For them it is physically impossible to remember arguments countering their interpretations of their chosen holy book(s). They believe their holy book(s); no matter how obviously reality contradicts that book.

How did Dawkins put it? Something about a brain virus.....

Edited by Pressie, : Spelling and added a sentence


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Pressie
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Message 95 of 182 (629159)
08-16-2011 7:45 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 2:58 AM


IamJoseph writes:

That's bunk and bogus, based on the age of the cave - not the painting. Colour was not invented in writings till 5,500 years ago, and it came from India. Check the population and mental prowess grads of your cave painters again. If Australian aboriginals are 60K years old, their popilation would be at least 5 trillion. Bite the bullet - your dates have no proof nor any graduating imprints; the Hebrew bible has, wth no vacuous gaps.

I can show that IamJoseph is a Eurocentric racist. He does not tell the truth.

Just have a look at San Paintings . Twenty six thousand years old. In colour. The paintings, not the cave.

I know that it doesn’t help to engage in a rational conversation with him, but I can show other people that he is not telling the truth.

Edited by Pressie, : I called IamJoseph just Joseph. Changed that.


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Pressie
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Message 101 of 182 (629168)
08-16-2011 8:48 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 8:24 AM


Word salads again. No word salad is going to hand wave your untrue statement of
IamJoseph writes:

Colour was not invented in writings till 5,500 years ago, and it came from India.

away. No matter how many words you use. You simply were not telling the truth.

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