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jar
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Message 35 of 157 (194668)
03-26-2005 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by mike the wiz
03-25-2005 7:36 PM


Re: Hey Mike The Whiz!
What with the fine-tuned universe etc.
The universe evolved to fit the critters?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 67 of 157 (194980)
03-28-2005 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Melchior
03-28-2005 12:21 PM


What the I in ID stands for?
On the other hand, we have something of a riddle here: A very intelligent designer could prefer to use processes that are self regulating simply because they do most of the work without requiring intelligence.
I think that is perhaps my biggest objection to the concept of Intellegent Design. The folk that point to bits and pieces and say "Look, there was a designer" might be right if the 'I' stood for Inept or Incompetent.
On the other hand, if they pointed at the system, at the mechanism called Evolution, at the beauty of a process that is self-healing, self-regulating and warranted to produce critters fitted for their environment, I might have to go along with them. In fact I think that's just what GOD did.
The problem with my approach as they might see it (IMHO) is that it places no unusual value or significance on the existence of humans. But then I don't thing we were a particular goal of the process anyway but rather only a remarkable result.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 77 of 157 (195162)
03-29-2005 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by RAZD
03-27-2005 9:24 PM


Re: LOL
One thing I particularly enjoyed about your project was that the final product directly reflected what we see in nature. It was not an optimal design, or even an intellegent design. Rather it resulted in "Just good enough" evolved stages.
This is exactly what we do see everywhere in nature. We don't have padding on our shins. We do have parts left over. We don't end up with the very best design.

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