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Author Topic:   What's The Best Solution For Humanity?
IamJoseph
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Message 1 of 301 (631202)
08-30-2011 7:39 PM


There have been numerous religions, ideologies, philosophies; and humanity is still in dis-unity, chaos, mutual exclusivity and pointing to only disaster ahead. Sooner or later, push will come to shove, and humanity will have to either decide its path - or disintergrate. If we keep on the same path we will end where it is pointing.
What then is the correct way for humanity to go forward? My suggestion:
Humanity must be based on laws, equally applicable to all, and those laws must be enshrined and mandated by representatives selected by humanity. For, of and by the people of earth. Admittedly, not everyone will find the results acceptable, as they would compete or contradict with inculcated beliefs and cultures - but this is equally impacting on all. Also, it will be trying for humanity to form a credible and unbiased set of representatives inclined for all humanity than any one group - the UN has not worked due to corruption from larger, dominating groups inclined on their own agenda, as opposed the good of all humanity via jst laws equally impacting on all. However, such difficulties are those which must be prevailed upon, and it still represents a better system than what we have today.
What's your solution?
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Un-ALL CAPS the topic title.

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IamJoseph
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Message 5 of 301 (631210)
08-31-2011 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Minnemooseus
08-30-2011 11:53 PM


Re: To quote Bender: We're boned
quote:
Ultimately, I anticipate more war, famine, and/or disease.
You are describing the failed premises and doctrines, and thus the term 'ultimately' cannot apply. Its up to humanity, there is no one else to do the job, and we have the advantage of knowing what does not work. Belief must be based on and satisfied by magestic laws - not the other way around.

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IamJoseph
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Message 6 of 301 (631211)
08-31-2011 12:10 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Coyote
08-31-2011 12:04 AM


Re: The Best Solution
quote:
Democracy is based on the assumption that a million men are wiser than one man.
That is one of the problems facing humanity. Democrasy was stuffed up by the Greeks. Majority deciding is not democrasy but mob rule. There can be no democrasy unless correctly applied:
'YOU SHALL 'NOT' FOLLOW A CORRUPTED MAJORITY'
Otherwise, Sadaam Hussein and Hitler were the world's most democratically elected rulers.

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Message 12 of 301 (631234)
08-31-2011 3:25 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by hooah212002
08-31-2011 12:30 AM


I'm not a decider what's the best way, just tossing views around. I agree education is not negotiable; the problem is one can be educated in a wrong way, which has caused humanity's big issues today. We have grotesque contradictions between history's descriptions between Christianity and Islam, for instance - so here education only increases the problem. I prefer the factor of laws followed by education for the next generation.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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Message 13 of 301 (631235)
08-31-2011 3:30 AM
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08-31-2011 12:36 AM


Re: To quote Bender: We're boned
By magestic laws I simply mean good laws which most will agree and accept and which are workable as equally impacting on all. No religious or cultural and other racism. Equal rights for the stranger as the inhabitant and equal justice for all, IMHO, are megestic laws which can unite humanity, even though they may present some issues for some. The big picture rules.

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Message 14 of 301 (631236)
08-31-2011 3:34 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Dogmafood
08-31-2011 12:14 AM


quote:
I think the biggest step will be controlling/limiting the population. The next is a sustainable zero growth economy.
Totally disagree. This spells the utter destruction of humanity and the kind of humanity we want to live with and as. Better, that we devise means of going forth and multiplying by having dominion of other worlds. Its not a choice factor ultimately.

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Message 16 of 301 (631246)
08-31-2011 5:44 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Minnemooseus
08-31-2011 4:33 AM


Re: Shirley you're joking!!!
quote:
Your saying "Destroy the planet and then abandon ship for Mars".
No. I'm saying that the population will increase no matter what we do - even if we use the china syndrome of limiting offspring to whoever wins lotto. And we cannot even do that with the other life forms. We are looking 2-300 years ahead; add a zero and we see what the right path is: we won't be able to turn our noses. Its the only way to save this planet - and humanity from becoming self centred zombies.
This says the worse the climate the better; the greater the population increase - even better. This and no other factor will propel humanity in the right direction: a dome city on the moon in 50 years; five bases on Mars.
GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY AND HAVE DOMINION OF ALL THE WORLDS.
Its not a choice factor and how freeky this situation was anticipated by Genesis!
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Message 22 of 301 (631359)
08-31-2011 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by NoNukes
08-31-2011 10:04 AM


Re: Shirley you're joking!!!
quote:
If population control is off the table, then humanity is doomed.
Humanity is doomed if we restrict population; only its reverse can save.
quote:
We are never, ever getting out of this solar system,
Famous last words. By your view, humanity is toast both ways: you cannot control the population - eventually it will catch up with you. Its not a choice factor.
The other thing which will save humanity is if the climate stinks.

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Message 23 of 301 (631360)
08-31-2011 7:10 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Aware Wolf
08-31-2011 10:45 AM


Re: Shirley you're joking!!!
Once upon a time, the Babylonion empire never knew there was another one called the Egyptian empire. One day, the out of Africa will be replaced by the out of earth story. All evolutionists will agree - survival of the fittest does not stop on earth: we have to prove this by going to other harsh environments and conquering it. Its not a choice factor. Genesis is correct.

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Message 34 of 301 (634610)
09-23-2011 5:42 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by frako
09-23-2011 5:31 AM


Only one solution exists - there are no multiple choice factors.
Go forth
Multiply
Have dominion of all the worlds.
The greater the population; the greater the pollution - the greater chance humanity will see the light.

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Message 37 of 301 (634628)
09-23-2011 7:17 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by Larni
09-23-2011 7:06 AM


Pushing the goal post meets the same brick wall of disaster further up. Slowing the population only delays the assured disaster and looses time which should be spent in acquiring more land - more planets and to make them habitable. The latter needs greater populations to make the task easier.

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Message 39 of 301 (634633)
09-23-2011 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by frako
09-23-2011 7:26 AM


The quest of humanity with a single aim to acquire new habitations will not have any problems with unemployed or food shortages. Food chain stores will become very important providers and processors of food for the masses. It will be like the gold rush days, everyone and every nation working towards one goal - with guaranteed destruction if the quest fails. Religions will become superfluous. IMHO, this quest will be realized via a great war or via a unified humanu endeavor which will cross over all barriers. Its not a choice factor.

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Message 42 of 301 (634638)
09-23-2011 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Pressie
09-23-2011 7:44 AM


My post said religion will become superfluous, yet you mention only prayers, disregarding everything I said. Man on the moon aligns with my premise - not yours?

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Message 43 of 301 (634639)
09-23-2011 8:06 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by frako
09-23-2011 7:47 AM


quote:
Because the people working on these new rocets that will take BILLIONS of us in to space dont haveto eat.
Rockets will be the least important factor. Many new industries will have to be evelated. Every country will work for and donate what is needed, from scientificallt designed fabrics, shoes which control gravity and temperatures, face mics which give the correct oxygen mix, new materials for dome cities created by chemicals on other planets, agricultural controlled areas, new chemical forms of producing water, greatly reducing time travels, offering modern housing for humans and other life forms, etc, etc. No unemplyment will be seen for the next 1000 years and no shortage of lands.
There are no alternatives applying here. Its do or die.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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Message 47 of 301 (634655)
09-23-2011 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by frako
09-23-2011 8:40 AM


No - we die only if we do not 'MULTIPLY [in population and mental prowess] AND HAVE DOMINION OF OTHER WORLDS'. The ratio is, the worse the polution the sooner we start saving humanity.

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