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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Even if we develop nuclear powered engines, which Russia and the US are looking into again, we still have psychical limitations to take into account. What kind of acceleration could be maintained? Anything over 22Mph(35kph), which produces the stress forces of 1g, seems impractical. The human body wouldn't like a 2g environment for an extended period. These same limitations also apply to slowing down. This seems like a rather large problem to overcome even if we are capable of reaching high speeds. If we could achieve .5c how long would it take to get there with the physical limits of the human body.
Human tolerances depend on the magnitude of the g-force, the length of time it is applied, the direction it acts, the location of application, and the posture of the body. For example: An acceleration of 1 g equates to a rate of change in velocity of approximately 35 kilometres per hour (22 mph) for each second that elapses. Reaching Mars will be a monumental step, but that's all it will be til we have the technology to build self-sustaining outpost that requires no Earth resources. I think this planet, if left unchecked as it is now, will be in a bad way long before we have the technology to colonize the moon or mars. If we do not become better stewards of our own world then this will probably be the only one we ever inhabit. As has been said many times in this thread, Earth cannot support un-cheked growth but for so long. we are at the point now that we can no longer ignore this simple fact. A 1 acre garden wont support but so many people, the earth is no different. The population has doubled in my lifetime if I read the figures presented earlier. These are facts that can not be ignored.
Going to the stars is currently the stuff of sci-fi, not an answer to our problems we currently face. Thanks for the graph I stole from your post Frako. Edited by fearandloathing, : Added source and fixed a error in speed. Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given."No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
I don't think maintaining the speed is a problem, I think the acceleration is Of course the acceleration is the problem, that was my point. Once you achieve top speed you would be in free-fall til it was time to slow. My point was that in order to reach speeds necessary to achieve anything but a one way trip, out of our solar-system, would take a long time, around 5 months, at 1g equivalent rate of acceleration, to get to .5c. That is a long time, lots of fuel ect... Reaching that speed faster would be beyond what would be good for the human body. I should have been more clear, I was just thinking primarily about problems of going to the stars. Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given."No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Thanks, I done it in my head real fast and rounded it off to 5 months in my last post, closer to 6 though.
"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
We do not have limitations, when measured against our status of knowledge at any given period I am not exactly sure what you mean? But we do have physical limitations, I you were to be accelerated at a speed that = 10g's for an hour it would kill you. If you meant that in time we might be able to develop some type of inertial damping technology that would allow us to accelerate faster.... one day maybe we might be able to do this.... Sorry but the rest of your post just confuses me."No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
The relativity factor applies. Applies to what? If your going to answer a question it helps to know what the question was that you are answering. I know you know how to quote."No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
My PC collapsed after 44 doubles. List the balance if you can You only need 31 doubles for a month, seems the answer lies in your own list.
21474836.48 Wow You seem to confuse even yourself. "No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Going to the moon in 1969 was great, but for today's knowledge it is not. Reaching another solar system in 200 years will be relatively normal. Knowledge is a compoinding factor - everytime a new discovery is made, millions of ancililary new finds come to us for nought. This has nothing to do with my question. It does not answer why you say...
The relativity factor applies. Applies to what?"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
LOL... Happens to the best of us.
"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
We do not currently have the ability to go to the moon, nor even to put astronauts into orbit. We as humans can still put men in orbit. sorry, just being picky. "No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
The relativity factor applies to the rate of human expansion throughout the universe Your use of relativity is rather confusing. sorry "No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
I stand corrected, I forgot they lost a cargo mission that uses the same booster for manned flight.
AbE... I don't think their other loss was the same booster they use for manned flight...I could be wrong. Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given."No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4167 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
I was right after all...
However, the first Chinese crewed flight program only began in earnest several decades later, when a crash program of technological development culminated in Yang Liwei's successful 2003 flight aboard Shenzhou 5. This achievement made China the third country to independently send humans into space. China could still put men in orbit."No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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