Anyone else here in the post-PC era?

In iTunes the pad only shows up when it is physically connected.

I have no answers to your questions, but I think my upgrade went much smoother because I didn't try to use iCloud and I upgraded at the computer my iPhone considers "home." Unless you were already syncing to that computer I don't think iTunes is going to know what to sync back onto the device. I know the iPad isn't as computer-tethered as the other devices. I don't have one so I can't offer my experiences there. (As for my own issues, it turned out to be my own fault - I had DNS redirects in my hosts.conf file from the last time I jailbroke.)

Have you enabled wifi sync in the iPad 'General' tab and the iTunes 'summary' tab?You need to do this while connected to your PC and then sync as normal. That's what I did (as best as I can recall).Then it will auto sync with iTunes when your pad is charging.

Yup did that. But it still does not see any of the computers in my home network.I'll check again, next time I charge it.

After you updated to ios 5 did you reconnect the pad to your wireless network?

No idea.It certainly surfs and lets me get out to the internet.

I'm stumped. If you have iTunes open on your PC and your pad charging and all the right boxes ticked (as it seems you have) it should sync (or you can tap manual sync) and then do it's wifi magic.I'm not very go at technical support, am I?

Not really a biggie. I'm just amazed at how difficult and counter-intuitive Apple products are.

Carry On.Edited by AdminPD, : No reason given.

For personal household use My love affair with my PC is over; but I still need a PC for work.And iOS 5 was a lot of hassle.

I just plugged my iPhone 4 in, had to update iTunes, but then just clicked on the update button and about 3 hours later everything was done and worked just fine.I have noticed some nice improvements: having the camera button at the locked screen is useful for those rushed pic opportunities, the new non-interuptive message system is way better (it really sucked getting a text message from my girlfriend mid-battle in a game), and I also noticed they've added different routes to the map app. When I wanted to set a reminder for myself, I used to have to put an appointment into the calendar and then have it send a reminder for that but now I can just go into the reminders app and do it right there, so that's an improvement too.I've been happy with the upgrade so far.

Okay, sure, we're in the post-PC era, but when I want to sit back in an easy chair and answer some email or post some messages at EvC Forum I use my laptop, not my iPad. iPad's on-screen keyboard is not useful for anything but short messages. I could use an external keyboard, but now I'm juggling two items in my lap instead of just one - maybe some have mastered this, but it doesn't work for me.When I last posted to this thread I had upgraded the laptop to Lion, after which the camera didn't work. Any tool using the camera would give "Camera not connected" messages. Scouring the net for solutions I discovered that this is a common problem after a Lion upgrade, but I didn't find any solutions.I took the lap top to the Genius Bar at our local Apple store, and my assigned genius tested the camera on both Lion and on 10.5.5, which he booted up off a USB drive. The camera did not work on either OS.I showed the genius the on-line discussion threads about others having the same camera problem after upgrading to Lion, and he conceded the unlikelihood of the camera failing simultaneously with the upgrade, but he said all the evidence indicated that the camera was broken. I agreed to a camera replacement for $78 and left the laptop with them.Apple called the next day and said they'd upgraded something (the person who called had no specific information) and that the camera was now working. They acknowledged that there were problems with the Lion upgrade, and they said there was no charge.Okay, I'm happy, I guess, but gee, what a surprise, the camera was never broken.My guess is that there's firmware for the camera that in some cases is affected by the Lion upgrade. I'm happy that the camera is fixed but very disappointed at the process. The people who actually fix the hardware are not the genius bar people helping customers, and I'm sure the guy who helped me still has no idea that Lion upgrades really can "break" cameras.Assuming the iPod is part of the post-PC era, at the same time I picked up the laptop I attempted to get my iPod battery replaced. It turns out that Apple no longer replaces iPod batteries. They will sell you a brand new 120GB iPod Classic for $59 (probably regular price around $200), but they will no longer replace the battery. It's a good deal, but I really only wanted to spend $25 or $30. I was very disappointed.So now I have a brand new 120GB iPod Classic, it'll probably last as long as my old iPod (5 years), but all I wanted was a new battery because I'm just trying to get by until we get 4G in our area when I will buy a smart phone.Thanks to those who tried to interpret the iCloud for me, but it still feels ambiguous and fuzzy to me. Some iPad data is stored in iTunes, some is in the cloud, and I would love to see an explicit statement from Apple about which is where. But maybe this just comes with the territory of the post-PC era, that we never really know for sure what's going on.--Percy

This came up earlier in the thread, and today I saw an interesting chart of iPhone vs. Android handsets and their relative degree of update support: http://theunderstatement.com/...ing-a-sad-history-of-support

I think a more fair comparison would be iPhone to Google's Nexus phones because ALL the phones listed are not receiving updates due to Android, but due to carrier/manufacturer.

Seems a nice tribute to the passing of Jobs would be for Bill Gates to finally allow his children to buy iPhones, etc.