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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Palin has called for the repeal of "Obamacare". Part of that bill prevents insurance companies from taking away children's health insurance because they get sick. Do you see the latter as her motivation for the former? Might she support the cancellation restriction but felt compelled to oppose Obamacare in its aggregate? She is still a nutjob, but still ... is this really her motivation in this case?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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To be fair, I don't think anyone at any time can ever accuse Palin of being motivated by anything. I seriously doubt if she has the ability to express AT ALL the reasons behind any position she holds. I'm getting myself on the wrong side of this thing, but that is where this is leading so I do not have much in the way of choice. You and I both disagree, quite pointedly, with Palin's politics. But she is a human being. And, frankly, one does not get to be successful in any endeavour let alone politics without having some intellectual skills even if they are on the "wrong" side of the political spectrum. I imagine she is well aware of her political motivations even if we are not. Just because we see her on the nutjob side of the body politic does not mean that she is any less aware, any less motivated or any less human than are we.
This is the woman who called "Unfair Gotcha Journalism" on the question: "What have you seen while here in Boston?" If this is true then there is a reason for this. I just do not happen to know what it is. And I suspect neither do you. Demonizing ones opponents as sub-human incapable of feelings and reason, especially political opponents, is a longstanding inanity with this species. Edited by AZPaul3, : title
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Palin said it was _UNFAIR_ to be asked the absolute hands down most softball question that any local news reporter can ask. "What have you seen here in Boston?" Is this the incident you speak of?
Palin in Boston I hope not.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Her reaction later was that it was "gotcha journalism" to ask her "what have you seen". Best evidence, Nuggin. Where is the attribution on this statement?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Seems like before you demand this sort of evidence from me, you might want to use the same internet and type in less words to see if you can find it for yourself. I did. Which is why I asked you if the story I found was the one you referred to, and asked for your source on her further statement. But here is the main point of this exercise: You relayed the story. It is up to you to provide the citations. Just because this thread deals in politics and not science or religion does not mean the rules of evidence are suspended. As we are so fond of telling the creationists here, it is not up to me to go looking for your missing citations. It is incumbent upon you to provide them up front.
Unless of course you honestly don't think Palin bitches about "gotcha" media. Worse than that. Except for the fact that Palin turned out to be substantially correct in her Revere story, she did later, after the blow-up with an apparently equally clueless media, refer to the "Boston" question as a "gotcha." Which is surprising since it was not a "gotcha" question and she answered it well enough. I think she got confused after the inane media blow-up about her answer. Frankly, if she can become that confused over something this plain then this is another indicator that she is well outside her league. But, in the end, you have made your point, finally, with evidence, and I accept that. I hope I have made mine. Now to continue:
Let me categorically state that Palin says any question asked of her is a "gotcha" question. I think you are going to have a hard time showing this one. Any question? As each and every question anyone would ask of her? Really? Prove it. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
I wanted to respond to Nuggin first. Hope you don't mind.
But that statement by Nuggin seems correct. Indeed it does. And with someone like Sarah it fits. But that wasn't the point. Was it, in fact, correct? Like religion and evolution, politics is fraught with emotion to the point where people will take anything that fits their negative view of an opponent as fact whether it is or not. After some nugging ... eh ... nudging, Nuggin provided the required evidence. Good for him.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Here's a link to a wiki page explaining who "Katie Couric" is Here's a link a page explaining what a "wiki page" is Here's a link explaining what a link is Excellent. Then I have made my point.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Please show me in what way was Palin substantially correct? Palin In Boston quote: The rest of the interview gives answers to your other questions. I do not know Prof. Allison's political stance but I would think the chair of the history department at Suffolk University in Boston would know the real history and would be qualified to make such a judgement. I defer to the Professor's view. But, please, it was not my intent to defend Sarah Palin. My point was that, when asked, as you did, for sources, they should be given ... regardless of how "well known" someone might think they are. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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So, no argument? Just an Appeal to Authority? Yeah, that's all I got. I'm not an historian and I haven't the time nor the motivation to go find anything else. If you, frog, Theo, Nuggin and others have other better authorities to share then fine, I can accept those. I'm not here to shill for Palin. I'm thinking this whole effort is getting lost in the emotional tangents. I knew I was starting out on the wrong side of a highly charged political lightning rod. See my Message 95. We all know Palin is not the sharpest tack in the box. And we all know her politics are heavy to the right and her intellect is heavy to the south. But what I have seen is the kind of needless demonization of an enemy we say we all deplore in American politics. I guess calling it to attention without being stained by the demon myself was too much to hope for. Edited by AZPaul3, : Proper syntax, please Paul.Yes, Mom.
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