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NoNukes
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Message 14 of 200 (635296)
09-28-2011 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Nuggin
09-28-2011 10:55 AM


Re: Tea Party vs Christian Coalition
Can you provide the REAL thinking behind any of the above?
Sure. The Tea Party is anti-Obama. They hate him passionately. Primary in their mind is giving a Laurel and Hardy welcome to "getting their country back". Second, they are also generally the wing-nut extremist Republicans. I believe the above is enough to predict the TPers position on most things.
Let's apply these principles to your questions.
- The Tea Party is anti-Obamacare. One of their loudest objections was "death panels".
- The same Tea Party is cheering the death of an uninsured man at the debates.
The death panels stuff is just political theater. Only a few idiots ever believed that Obama's health care plan involved death panels. But hating Obama means hating Obama-care no matter what it actually does for them or the country. As for hating the uninsured, that's normal wing-nut stuff.
The Tea Party claims to be pro-troops.
- The Tea Party booed a Marine who admitted he was gay and has served honorably.
Everybody is pro-troops. But booing gays is what wing-nut haters (and a surprising number of supposed liberals) do. Hate beats love.
The Tea Party hates the EPA. Is it that they hate the Environment or the idea of Protecting it?
Most all Republicans hate the EPA with slightly less vigor than they hate ACLU. But wing-nuts think a federal agency policing clean air and water infringes their states rights to allow corporations to pee in TPers own corn flakes. I don't see any inconsistency in the Tea Party position here.
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NoNukes
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Message 17 of 200 (635302)
09-28-2011 2:09 PM
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09-28-2011 1:39 PM


Re: Tea Party vs Christian Coalition
They hate Civil Liberties?
Yes. Many people do hate some civil liberties. Primarily they hate ones they either don't expect to have to use (like the 4th, 5th, and 8th amendments) and the ones that they actively despise (a good portion of the 1st amendment). In fact, I think a case can be made that TPers hate more of the Constitution than just about any other group of Americans.
And of course the ACLU normally does not take on 2nd amendment cases.

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NoNukes
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Message 36 of 200 (635465)
09-29-2011 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Nuggin
09-29-2011 2:08 AM


Those hispanics who went through legally, or were born to parents who went through legally, really hate the illegals.
Some of them do, but by and large it does not seem to be the case that legal Hispanics hate illegals. Generally speaking, other than blocs of Cubans, Hispanic voters are very wary of Republicans despite any conservative leanings they might have on some issues. Republicans consider getting 35% of the Hispanic vote to be doing very well.
All Hispanics voters are here legally, and are in fact U.S. citizens by any definition.

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NoNukes
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Message 104 of 200 (635679)
09-30-2011 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by jar
09-30-2011 1:18 PM


Re: Total lack of a plan.
Taq writes:
All the rhetoric that I have heard calls for the flat repeal of Obamacare without any hint of what should replace it.
Not a plan, but it is a hint at what one Republican would like to replace the current health care plan with. I suppose Coyote has met his burden.
My prediction is that unless the Supreme Court rules in a way that dooms the current plan, the Republicans won't really need an a plan that servers as anything other than sound bites.
I remember a short few years ago when it was just neo-Cons that got my goat. Ah well.

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NoNukes
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Message 147 of 200 (636008)
10-03-2011 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by Rahvin
10-03-2011 4:36 PM


Re: Fire Marks
What happens if your neighbor doesn't pay his fire department bill, and his house catches fire? Does the fire department then just let that house burn?
This is not a hypothetical question. Some public fire departments already refuse to spray water on your house if you haven't paid your bill.
http://www.nowpublic.com/...d-obion-county-fine-2692500.html
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Gene Cranick's Rural Tennessee Home Burns To The Ground Because Of Unpaid $75 Fine
Gene Cranick, a homeowner in Obion County in Tennessee, watched helplessly as his house burned to the ground - his 911 call went unheeded because of an unpaid $75 Fire services fee, charged to people living outside county limits.
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The South Fulton Fire department did ultimately respond but only to prevent a neighbor's home that was being threatened - the fire fighters allowed the Cranwick home to burn to the ground.

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