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PsychMJC
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Message 318 of 602 (639002)
10-27-2011 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 292 by Buzsaw
10-26-2011 11:00 PM


Re: A Few Facts
No employer in UK or the US is going to just let them take normal work time off for that purpose 24/7. No?
I've been working since I was 16. At no job I've had since then, full time or part time, has my employer EVER said..
"Hey, whatcha doin on that vacation? Going to the lake? No no no, I'll have to decline your vacation because I don't agree with you using YOUR vacation time for that".
They have never taken away one of my DAYS OFF because of what I was going to do with my day off. They have NEVER forced me to stay until midnight because I was going to have something for dinner AFTER WORK that they didn't like, or made me come in earlier because of how I enjoy spending my morning BEFORE WORK.
It is MY vacation. It is MY TIME. If I have accrued several weeks off (which I have, several times) nobody CARES what I do with it. If I want to go sit at a park and protest for a week, nobody stops me. It would be no more expensive than going camping for the week (or are you also against people using their vacation time for camping?) so why are you so surprised that people can take a week off and do with it what they want?
Because YOU wouldn't find it a valuable use of your time? Who cares, get off your cross. I can guarantee I would find very little exciting or worth my time on one of YOUR vacations, so let's just agree to let each other choose how they want to spend their own time off, ok?
I get it tho. In the Christian Amerikkka you wish to live in, vacations will only be granted to those going on pilgrimages to the holy land or other "Church Approved" activities (insert Buz Church Of Preference, all others need not apply). Here in the real world, the actual US, we can CHOOSE where we go on our own time, we can CHOOSE how we spend our disposable income.
I find it hard to believe that a man of your age is having trouble with the concept of vacation time. Perhaps we should start another thread and go point by point through the definitions of a day (24 hours), a week (7 days), and vacation so that you can clearly understand why this..
No employer in UK or the US is going to just let them take normal work time off for that purpose 24/7. No?
is just more of your verbal diarrhea with no actual basis in reality. Just like most of your other posts. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

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PsychMJC
Member (Idle past 1324 days)
Posts: 36
From: Modesto, California
Joined: 11-30-2007


Message 321 of 602 (639007)
10-27-2011 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 319 by Rahvin
10-27-2011 12:08 PM


Re: vacation and time off
Since prison labor has been far less efficient than the migrant workers, I wonder how long this will last before we are whipping the inmates to increase production..

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PsychMJC
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Message 323 of 602 (639009)
10-27-2011 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 320 by Rahvin
10-27-2011 12:16 PM


Re: Oakland
I plan on heading to Oakland this weekend if I can clear it with the fiance. I had wanted to make the trip sooner, and now I am beating myself up over not getting off my ass and doing it.
Pay attention Buz. My EMPLOYER has no real say over how I spend my free time. Fiances however...

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PsychMJC
Member (Idle past 1324 days)
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From: Modesto, California
Joined: 11-30-2007


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Message 334 of 602 (639039)
10-27-2011 2:58 PM


OPD Crowd Control Policy
I am at work and don't have the time to really dig through this to see if they have written in enough back doors to allow the behavior of the police in Oakland, but I found certain sections to be interesting.
Direct Fired Specialty Impact Less-Lethal Munitions (Bean Bags):
Less lethal specialty impact weapons that are designed to be direct fired at a specific target (Direct Fired SIM) including but not limited to flexible batons (bean bags), shall not be used for crowd management, crowd control or crowd dispersal during
demonstrations or crowd events.
Direct Fired SIM may never be used indiscriminately against a crowd or group of persons, even if some members of the crowd or group are violent or disruptive.
The use of sound and light diversionary/distraction devices presents a risk of permanent loss of hearing or serious bodily injury from shrapnel. Said devices shall be deployed to explode at a safe distance from the crowd to minimize the risk of personal injury and while moving the crowd in the direction that will accomplish the policing objective
Page not found - National Police Accountability Project

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PsychMJC
Member (Idle past 1324 days)
Posts: 36
From: Modesto, California
Joined: 11-30-2007


Message 337 of 602 (639043)
10-27-2011 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 335 by hooah212002
10-27-2011 3:02 PM


Re: OPD Crowd Control Policy
Video clearly shows the police tossing some kind of device (that explodes, bright light and smoke) directly into the (small, unarmed, nonviolent) group trying to help an injured protester. So there's one gross violation.
I've heard the OPD blaming the officers from "other" places for pretty much all of the bad behavior. Not OUR fault, must have been officers from Petaluma or Navato. It's clearly not the OPDs responsibility to make sure those reinforcements they've called in act in accordance with the city policies. That would be asking far too much. Seems to me the OPD should have been arresting the out-of-town officers then. Weren't they, too, breaking the law?

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PsychMJC
Member (Idle past 1324 days)
Posts: 36
From: Modesto, California
Joined: 11-30-2007


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Message 359 of 602 (639093)
10-27-2011 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 348 by Buzsaw
10-27-2011 6:54 PM


Re: OPD Crowd Control Policy
Do you EVER.... EVER think about or do ANY research on ANY of the topics you post about? Do you EVER read, actually READ, what people take the time to put together and post here? 'Cause it REALLY doesn't seem like it.
I will gladly admit that NOT ALL of the protesters acted in an appropriate manner. Could you do the same? Fuck no you couldn't. Not a single police officer did anything wrong as far as you are concerned. But that's out of the scope of what you are commenting on anyway. This is one, specific instance I am talking about in the comment you have decided to reply to. You HAD to comment on it but you obviously couldn't be bothered to even find out what I was talking about!
I have a video that CLEARLY SHOWS a visual impairment device being tossed DIRECTLY INTO a small group of people who ran to ASSIST AN INJURED PROTESTER. I can clearly see in this video not ONE SINGLE action is taken against the police by the crowd gathered before they toss the device. I can see NO weapons being pointed at the police. None. Not one.
Further, I have provided the OPD Crowd Policy that SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS the use of that kind of tactics, even IF someone, somewhere in that crowd HAD been throwing firecrackers!
Where's your evidence of life threatening danger to the police? Got any? At all? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Edit. I would also like to point out that Buz has tucked his tail and ran from previous comments in this thread about vacation. Nothing to say about that either, eh old chap?
Edited by PsychMJC, : Edit

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