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What are they going to demand of their congressman, being most of them have no idea what they are protesting about, relative to Wall Street?Wall street is where millions of stock holding Americans who's stock dividends and earned income pays for the I-pads, the cell phones, the cigarettes, the beer, the bread, the pizza, etc that these non working sheeple buy with the tax money levied on the rich, the entrepreneurs, the corporate employees, etc.While these non-tax paying idle (many of whom are rag tag) routy mobs are on the streets, (abe: biting) the hands that feed them, the one's feeding them are working ever harder to pay the increased taxes levied on them to pay for the 2 years unemployment, etc. The idle loud mouthed mobs are demanding the blessings of America without assuming the responsibilities.If they contact their congressman, they should advise him/her that they are willing to give up their techy stuff, food, trucking companies that truck the stuff, motorcycles, autos and all else that Wallstreet affords them. Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

Wall Street is comprised of the stock and commodity markets. Without these markets, the free enterprise system, including the corporations of it could not exist. Wall Street is the source of their funding.Without Wall Street you would have no trucking, food, technology, construction, etc corporations in this free nation, which has been the most free and blessed on the planet.

If you were a Fox News listener, you would be aware that Democrat congressmen, during the Bush Admin, and now the Obama Admin along with Democrat oversight congressmen were demanding the banks to dish out loans to people who couldn't afford them.Barny Frank, et al, assured the banks that government would cover them if the loans failed.That's exactly what they did. They borrowed billions and even trillions, the Federal Reserve printing the money, inflating the people's money and handed it over to the Fed Reserve bankers who now are holding it, stashing the people's money in their vaults, enriching themselves, knowing that if they loan it out they will likely loose it.The protesters should be at the White House and Congress protesting that they, not Wall Street or the rich that enriched the bankers and put them out of the homes which they couldn't afford in the first place.The protesters are organized by the Obama backed unions, Obama crony, billionaire socialist George Soros, et al and other left wing anti-capitalist entities who, unlike the well mannered Tea Partiers, occupy the people's parks, streets and businesses. Tea partiers OTO, would have their orderly (non trash/debris) rally, after which they would go back home and to work.These occupying thugs go defecate in business restrooms, on the streets, leave their

Tell me, Onifre, in what nation are blacks, Hispanics better off than the ones in America?Tell me, Onifre, why, if America is so bad for minorities, why do Hispanics illegally cross our borders so as to find a better life, education and income?As an aside, VOTE FOR HERMAN KANE, THE REAL 100% FIRST BLACK CANDIDATE CAPABLE OF WINNING!! bUZSAW IS NO MINORITY RACIST!! ABE: Tell me, Onifre, why is it that blacks and hispanics risk their lives on high water ocean waters, under terrible odds, from Haite and Cuba, to raft to America's shores so as to enjoy the good American life? Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

Well, Jonsey, pray tell, if America is not the greatest for Hispanics and blacks from Mexico, Haite and Cuba, the nations which I mentioned, what nation on the planet is greater for them in the proximity where they would be able to go to?As for your off topic false charges of me being a racist, I'll refute that notion in another thread where it would be more on topic. You have absolutely no documentation for that meanspirited lie. It's nothing but a groundless personal attack, contrary to forum guidelines which you keep on keeping on posting.

We shouldn't welcome illegal anybodies. My son and his wife have two adopted Hispanic brothers. They also have two of their own children. They adopted one Hispanic and when a brother was born they took him also. The parents and adopted sons are all legal Hispanics.

I'm one of those Social Security recipients. I, along with most of us paid our dues/taxes for our SS retirement . I paid non-inflated hard earned $$ for 40 years to pay for the pittance of inflated $$ I'm getting back; about enough to keep me from freezing and starvation. Had I been allowed to invest all of this money in money markets, etc, I'd be living on easy street today. I was paying in 25 cent gasoline money and getting back $3.00 gasoline money. No we seniors, many of whom were Tea Party participants, were not on the public dole. We/they were the cheated ones who were frisked by the government for our hard earned to pay for our own retirement.What is your source that most were seniors and the figure you cited? Methinks it's a blind assertion.BTW, Froggie, who's paying the Union workers, their organizers and many of the people who are there spending money, buying food, buying Ipods, phones, tents, etc.I smell rats here, involving our Organizer In Chief, who saw to it that the workers could get two years $$ from the public dole so as to implement mayhem, chaos and spread anti capitalistic hatred around the nation and the planet?Our Organizer in Chief is organizing his promised civilian army revolution so as to keep his promise of changing America so as for it to be compatible with he, his close bud, Bill Ayres, violent Weather Underground terrorist, America hater/pastor/former Nation Of Islam member/ bud of Louis Farrakahn, self avowed Communist/socialist, Frank Marshal Davis, etc, etc.In order to fundamentally transform our nation into what Bill Ayers et al fail to do violently, the Organizer In Chief plans to achieve chaos and mayhem, destroy the American &&, undermine our only ally in the Mid East, Israel and empower the Islamic Brotherhood in nations like Egypt, Labia, (now Sudan) and other nations.Now our Army is aiding and abetting the ruthless Islamic regime in Sudan who was burning villages, crucifying Christians, burning down the homes of Christians, killing and persecuting Christians to the point that, like now in Egypt, the Christians were forced to organize a resistance to save the lives of their families and avoid being forced to convert to Islam which was why the ruthless regime persecuted them. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It used to be back before the hippy sixties before drugs were a significant problem that the places where the migrant workers were employed there were quarters on the property which housed them, where they were fed etc. When their crop picking, etc was done they were loaded on busses and returned to Mexico. Up here in NY some of the old buildings still remain where they stayed while in this region working in the fields. The same was true all over the nation.
Then the government got lax, drugs became a lucrative means of $$ for the ones like you have described. The floodgates, so to speak at the border were opened and they began pouring in, pretty much unchecked until it came to the point where it was apparent that they couldn't be controlled.IT was back at the time in the decades after the hippy sixties that the government administrations of both parties failed to deal with the ever rising influx of illegals, including the gang members you aptly described and individuals who slipped in to homes and businesses who welcomed them. Some of the ones who came for work ended up helping the drug lords for the $$ offered to them, etc.In spite of the lower wages immigrants received, due to language issues and lack of education and experience, their income was significantly higher than the what they got in Mexico, which was in so many cases, nothing.

Typical strawman cherry pick, Jar. During the great depression that may have been more typical, when the nation was suffering a drought in the Midwest along with poverty and unemployment. Judging from the automobiles etc, that's likely what period this was cherry picked from.My post applied to the 1950s to 1970s when the conditions of the migrants would have been similar to a lumberman's camp in the West.The migrants were as grateful for the employment as the growers were to have them. The consumers were grateful for the abundance of food produced. It was a win-win for the nation in those days.Today it's a win-win for the drug cartels, for the politicians who allow its, for the Obama Democrats who afford them voting privileges so as to remain in power.

Yah sure, like all of the city folks are going to run out and find a farmer to by dinner, produce, home canned peaches, pressed cider, whole hog sides, live steers to butcher, lumber to build your house and garage with, etc, etc.You may be their rube, but I'm grateful for all that the free market enterprise system, including Wall Street affords me.If Wall Street were blown to bits tomorrow, can you imagine the panic you and all of those nincompoops out their yelling their fool heads off about ?? would be caught up in along with the whole nation? The impact on the economy and welfare of Americans would dwarf 9/11.

TARP is not Wall Street or the rich. It is a bad government program. I did not support the GM and Chrysler bailouts. GM and Chrysler are not Wall Street or the rich, perse. They are two companies representing a relatively few rich, a minuscule part of Wall Street.As I said before, the loud mouth destructive and messy mob should be over at the Capitol where the idiots are who thought up TARP and all of this. They are the ones who got the nation in this mess, not Wall Street or the nation's industrious rich who make much of the American Dream happen, paying the lions share of taxes so that the sheeple out there not working can get all of the freebies like food stamps and two years unemployment/vacation etc, etc, etc, etc, etc....................

That's a blatant false blind assertion. What evidence do you have that I don't want a two party system? I didn't name parties in my message. Bush et al supported the first bailout. It happens that the Democrats are the ones who are pushing for TARP and a whole lot of what are going to bankrupt the nation. The party needs a good house cleaning. Oh yah, sure, just what we need is more of the government medling in private lives and affairs that got us in the mess in the first place.You best go back to the science forums, Dr Adequate, where you can at least appear to be intelligent. You're posting inadequately, falsely and non-sensibly here.

Capitalism is not about hiring workers, perse. It's about making a profit. The link itemizes the reasons that it would not be profitable for small businesses to hire in a progressive socialistic economy.

You're trying to have it both ways, Rueh. You're implying that the government does the frivolous spending but the rich should be penalized/taxed for it.Why tax anyone more for what the government boobs do? Give the boobs more and they'll just keep on doing the same ole.The solution is to lower all taxes so as to limit government spending.You might as well and join the revolutionaries protesting the rich and Wall-street rather than protesting the gov't boobs who implemented the spending.

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You're trying to have it both ways, Rueh. You're implying that the government does the frivolous spending but the rich should be penalized/taxed for it.

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Adequate, obviously you don't understand the problem. Until you get a handle on it, you'll never come up with a viable solution.The problem is neither the rich or the poor. It's the boobs in government who spend the hard earned tax $$ of the upper and middle class as if it grew on trees rather than the hard work and risky investments of the upper (rich) and middle class.The solution is for the rich, the middle class and the poor to go to the poles and fire the boobs, replacing them with conservative (i.e. to conserve) representatives who hold the line on spending, cut the pork,etc.The solution is for the protesting rent-a-mob rif-raf, trashing up the homes, businesses and offices on Wall Street to go to work, earn their way and advocate for candidates who will cease and desist doing what the boobs in government are doing.