"If I descended from an ape, how come apes are still here?"

Don't make the mistake of thinking that the discussion of Evolution versus Creationism is a choice between atheism and Christianity. Almost all major recognized Christian denominations acknowledge the fact that Evolution happened and that the ONLY explanation for the diversity we see today is the Theory of Evolution.

Actually what I said was that Evolution was a fact.The Theory of Evolution is a model. The first clue is that it is called "The Theory of Evolution".Creationist have not waved the white flag, they are just plain wrong. They will continue to be wrong.And of course I can present evidence that Christians acknowledge that Evolution is a fact (note that I said Evolution) and that the Theory of Evolution is the only model that explains the diversity of life seen today.You can begin with the Clergy Letter Project currently signed by over 12.000 US Christian Clergy where they say:

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We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as one theory among others is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge.

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In addition the US is not and has never been a Christian nation, thank God.Edited by jar, : left out the word 'with'

... "If I descended from an ape, how come apes are still here?"; it looks like the full genome from another relative primate of ours is being released.The Denisovian genome sequence was released by the Max Planck Institute. The DNA comes from a relative of ours that lived about 30,000 years ago.

You do understand that we are still primates, apes, don't you?Do you understand what a "common ancestor" means?Do you understand that saying we evolved from an earlier ape like primate is not mutually exclusive with saying that we have a common ancestor with all other living forms including even plants?

If we use common sense to look at the family of primates we see the origin in trees, both the simians and prosimians that are known lived in trees, and there is no evidence of anything like a hominid until fairly recently, in the last three million years or so.

Or maybe a Lemur or one of the other Prosimians?

I imagine that you have evidence of someone that lived to be at least 123?

No, that only happens in the Christian Cult of Ignorance {Unenlightenment} {Unintelligence} {Unknowledgable}.In science they must supply evidence to support their position.But again, what does any of your rabbit hole bullshit have to do with the topic?