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Topic: Evidence for a recent flood
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 30 of 404 (637508)
10-16-2011 8:30 AM
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Reply to: Message 27 by Portillo
10-16-2011 4:19 AM
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If a flood occurred, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, jumbled all together, Eryops next to Tapir, which we call fossils, laid down by water all over the world. Portillo - I fixed that one part. You are aware, aren't you, that trilobite and lobster fossils are never found in the same rock? And that there are several hundred equivalent examples of critters with the same habitat never showing up together as fossils?
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 57 of 404 (637685)
10-17-2011 12:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 41 by ICANT
10-17-2011 10:11 AM
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Re: What's expected?
When the tide comes in the rivers run backwards and the water rises. When the tide goes out the flow is reversed. Very little changes take place from one tide to the other and this has been going on for ages. The water rose and fell only once during the flood of Noah. You may not have noticed what you just did there, ICANT. The tides have been washing the Bay of Fundy almost twice a day for 12,000 years or so - ever since the ice cap over the Maritimes melted. The tides have already washed everything that was moveable by their action to where it was fated to go. Each day's tides rearrange some mud, etc., to put back in place six hours later. The water rising and falling once during your mythical Flud would have left a little silt behind. A little, that is, in the spots where it was 15 cubits deep. Quite a bit, though, in the places where it was deeper. Like all the silt off the high places......
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 73 of 404 (638145)
10-20-2011 8:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 64 by Trixie
10-19-2011 8:47 PM
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Hi, Trixie!!!!!!!!
We missed you!
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 89 of 404 (638964)
10-27-2011 9:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 88 by Panda
10-27-2011 8:37 AM
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Re: Summary to date:
That's peculiar, since Gen 11 has Peleg as the great-great-grandson of Shem, who was one of the eight survivors of the Fludde.
10These are the generations of Shem: Shem was an hundred years old, and begat Arphaxad two years after the flood:
11And Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.
12And Arphaxad lived five and thirty years, and begat Salah:
13And Arphaxad lived after he begat Salah four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.
14And Salah lived thirty years, and begat Eber:
15And Salah lived after he begat Eber four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.
16And Eber lived four and thirty years, and begat Peleg:
17And Eber lived after he begat Peleg four hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters.
18And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu: That puts Peleg's birth 101 years after the flood, if I'm reading my begats right. Edited by Coragyps, : typo
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 162 of 404 (641977)
11-24-2011 1:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 160 by IamJoseph
11-24-2011 12:28 PM
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Re: Lets take the initiative
The region is around Mount Ararat, a land mark mentioned for the first time, with aerial view location accuracy. You have said this repeatedly. I'm calling bullshit. Show me where your book even puts Ararat in some specific continent, Joe.
"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 304 of 404 (642505)
11-29-2011 1:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 303 by ICANT
11-29-2011 1:10 PM
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Re: looking at the likely reagion's geography
The water rising the 55 feet at the Bay of Fundy in 6 hours and then receeding in 6 hours does not change the landscape as everyone here declares that the flood would have done. That's likely because the tide have been operating in the Bay of Fundy ever since the North American ice cap melted up there - maybe 14,000 years ago?? And that twice-a-day inrush and retreat for five million days or so has already done most of the earthmoving it is going to do!!! This has been explained to you a couple of times now - not that you would acknowledge something glaringly obvious like that if it disagreed with your pet "theory" of the day.
Can I start a thread asking for the evidence to be presented of how the universe began to exist? If no one is allowed to participate in such a thread without presenting evidence there would be two posts. Mine presenting the problem and yours promoting the thread. There is no evidence. Well, except for the overwhelming evidence that you have seen at this forum about eighty times. That has been carefully explained to you by degreed physicists over and over.
"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 306 of 404 (642507)
11-29-2011 1:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 303 by ICANT
11-29-2011 1:10 PM
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Re: looking at the likely reagion's geography
Now if you guys want to really continue to discuss the flood of Noah you need to discuss it in the light of the evedence that is found in the Bible as that is the only place the account of the flood of Noah is recorded. And that doesn't strike you as a bit odd - that nobody else noticed, or that Ham's and Japeth's grandkids never passed on stories of the Fludde to their non-Jewish descendants? Or that there is no freakin' evidence in the Bible - only a mischmash of two stories cribbed from older Babylonian stories?
"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 352 of 404 (652897)
02-16-2012 5:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 349 by Portillo
02-16-2012 4:55 PM
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Re: Fossil formation
If you put various sediments in a blender and then lay them down with water, they will all go back neatly into layers. Kids can do this experiment at home! Can a 150-day flood repeat that sequence a few thousand times? I can find you some cores out of gas wells where actual nature did that.
"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 373 of 404 (653080)
02-17-2012 9:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 367 by Portillo
02-17-2012 7:23 PM
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Re: Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause.
The only place that the geological column exists in its entirety with all 12 layers in order, is in the textbooks. You are mistaken. Glenn Morton, a former YEC, documented 25 places around the world where all the post-Vendian layers have been cored in one go. He goes into great detail about the column in North Dakota: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/geocolumn/ Give it a read, at your own pace. Then let's discuss.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 398 of 404 (653335)
02-20-2012 7:06 AM
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Reply to: Message 396 by Portillo
02-20-2012 5:42 AM
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Re: La Brea Tarpits
There has been a series of catastrophic-extinction events that occured in the past that have created most of the fossil record, or maybe one big catastrophic-extinction. But that is simply untrue, Portillo, and has been known to be untrue for a century and a half. T.H. Huxley wrote an essay in 1868 - "On a Piece of Chalk" - that lays out as plainly as possible why geologists knew that when Queen Victoria was still young. Try reading it - though I know you won't bother. You're too afraid of learning something. http://aleph0.clarku.edu/huxley/CE8/Chalk.html
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