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jar
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Message 7 of 40 (639205)
10-28-2011 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by GDR
10-28-2011 6:40 PM


Today Jesus would say "Keep the Christians from visiting the prisons"
GDR writes:
One of the things as Christians that we are called to in Matthew 25 is to visit those in prisons. It appears to me that there is good reason for that. It is important to have on-going contact with the life that exists outside of prison. As a Christian I'm a miserable failure in this regard.
Unfortunately, far too many Christian groups do visit folk in prison, but for the wrong reasons and when there, do exactly the wrong things.
Too many Christian groups act as "chaplains" or "counselors" in prisons and go there to "take the Good News of Christ" instead of going to feed, comfort, educate, clothe. In reality, they are nothing more than another way for the State to avoid providing the help that the prisoners really need and instead simply peddle platitudes and word salad.

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jar
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Message 20 of 40 (639263)
10-29-2011 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Phat
10-29-2011 12:15 PM


Re: Responsibilities of mentoring prisoners
The problem is that you have no training as a counselor or teacher or psychiatrist or psychologist or even as a mentor.
But the State sees you as an acceptable substitute for providing any of the services that might help rehabilitate and educate people that are incarcerated.
Christian organizations like the one you volunteer with are a big part of the problem, a sop and hand wave way of avoiding doing what is needed.

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jar
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Message 23 of 40 (639269)
10-29-2011 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Jon
10-29-2011 7:29 PM


Re: What Should be Done?
The first step would be to decriminalize many current offenses and declare the War on Drugs over.

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jar
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Message 25 of 40 (639271)
10-29-2011 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Jon
10-29-2011 7:54 PM


Re: What Should be Done?
The first step is to cut the inflow, then rationalize the system
There are no good fast solutions.
The big problem is that the laws are just plain stupid, and not just the drug laws.
I remember when I was in Georgia, the penalty for busting into a Coke Machine and stealing the quarters was longer than for robbing the 7-11.
Our whole system is screwed up and it will take decades to make the needed changes.
The first step I'd suggest is to start by abolishing all laws below the State level.

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jar
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Message 39 of 40 (648430)
01-15-2012 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Modulous
01-15-2012 6:01 PM


Re: Starting them Young
Check out Unicor and the list of jobs they can fill.

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