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Aware Wolf
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11-07-2011 8:36 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by designtheorist
11-06-2011 5:39 PM

Simply stated — If there was a big bang, there has to be a Big Banger.
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And if there is a Big Banger, there has to be a Big Banger Factory, or whatever it is you want to call the thing that created the Big Banger.
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BTW, "Big Banger" was my nick-name back in High School.
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Aware Wolf
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11-08-2011 12:29 PM 		Reply to: Message 103 by designtheorist
11-07-2011 10:15 PM

Re: Reply to Aware Wolf
Second, my post in Message 49 unpacks this a little. You might want to check it out for more context. Briefly, the Big Banger (because he/she pre-exists time and space) is best thought of as non-temporal, eternal. Therefore, he/she does not need a beginning or a factory.
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This thread is growing faster than I can keep up with, so I may be (probably am) repeating someone's post, however...
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I don't know why it is "best thought of" for the Big Banger to be non-temporal or eternal. Does anyone know anything about things "outside" the Universe enough to make this claim? If this Big Banger can be non-temporal or eternal, why can't the Universe be non-temporal or eternal, which would obviate the need for the Big Banger?
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