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Author Topic:   Where Did The (Great Flood) Water Come From And Where Did It Go?
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Message 23 of 432 (642766)
12-01-2011 11:35 AM
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12-01-2011 9:15 AM


Why talk about it?
The reason to talk about it is really simple.

There are people, even here in the US of A, that think there was a Biblical Flood and unfortunately, there are even children being taught that it really happened.

In the US it is perfectly legal to teach children absolute falsehoods as long as those falsehoods can be couched as "Religious Beliefs" and the children are not in one of the public schools.

There are even candidates for the highest off in the land that believe such nonsense as "The Biblical Flood actually happened" should be taught even in the public schools.

As long as there are voters who continue to want to teach children such utter nonsense as though it were fact, we, particularly Christians, need to not just discuss the issue but soundly refute and ridicule such behavior.


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Message 52 of 432 (643001)
12-03-2011 6:52 PM
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12-03-2011 6:49 PM


Re: It's your model!
There is no model in the text.

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Message 63 of 432 (643054)
12-04-2011 10:00 AM
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12-04-2011 1:31 AM


And other than by magic, do you have a process that could have done that?

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Message 65 of 432 (643077)
12-04-2011 4:42 PM
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12-04-2011 4:40 PM


Re: Water
What is the mechanism?

What is the model?

Where did the water come from?

Where did it go?

How did it happen?


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Message 111 of 432 (645164)
12-23-2011 10:24 PM
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12-23-2011 10:12 PM


Re: Parbroiled?
And what was that expansion factor when water is turned to steam, something like 1600 to 1 or such?

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Message 118 of 432 (645241)
12-24-2011 4:18 PM
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12-24-2011 1:52 PM


Re: Miles of rock
To convert one pound of water at 100C to steam at 100C requires that you add 965 BTU.

If you then convert one pound of steam at 100C back to water at 100C you add 965 BTU to the surrounding environment.

Crispy Critters either way.


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Message 133 of 432 (645381)
12-26-2011 6:32 PM
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12-26-2011 6:29 PM


Re: Parbroiled?
The only way it can cool is to make something else hotter.

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Message 154 of 432 (645614)
12-28-2011 12:19 PM
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12-28-2011 12:10 PM


Re: Miles of rock
ICANT writes:

Only that there is historical evidence that the land mass was in one place in the recent past.

Sorry but please present such evidence.


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Message 157 of 432 (645620)
12-28-2011 1:34 PM
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12-28-2011 1:23 PM


Re: Miles of rock
Which is not evidence that the land mass was in one place in the recent past.

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion?


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Message 180 of 432 (645858)
12-30-2011 5:26 PM
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12-30-2011 4:22 PM


Re: It all goes into heat
He's a "Poe".

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Message 199 of 432 (645917)
12-31-2011 4:24 PM
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12-31-2011 3:37 PM


Re: It all goes into heat
The Biblical Flood stories are myths and the Biblical Flood has been absolutely refuted. Anyone claiming that the Biblical Flood begins by describing something that didn't happen.

That is simply fact.

It makes their position difficult but does present a possibility if they were very good at science of at least presenting an interesting fantasy. Unfortunately so far no one has ever presented anything that can get by someone who has completed an elementary school general science class.

If you are going to make some claim about so imagined "pre-flood" earth, then you need to present some evidence of that "pre-flood" earth.

If you are going to make some claim of a recent heavy bombardment, then you need to present some evidence of a recent heavy bombardment.

If you are going to make a claim of "fountains of the deep", then you need to present some evidence of "fountains of the deep".

But remember at the end, you are still just playing games of fantasy. Don't expect anyone to take the Biblical Flood myths seriously since the Biblical Flood has been absolutely refuted.


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Message 208 of 432 (645978)
01-01-2012 9:31 AM
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01-01-2012 12:15 AM


Re: The point of the thread
In my opinion it would be quite easy to produce a scenario for which there is no scientific evidence against the scenario, and also no credible reason to believe that such a scenario had ever occurred.

I for one would love to see a description of a scenario for either of the Biblical Flood stories where there is no scientific evidence that refutes it. After all, so far no one has ever been able to produce such a scenario without invoking magic.


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Message 210 of 432 (645990)
01-01-2012 12:04 PM
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01-01-2012 11:59 AM


Re: The point of the thread
It is something that can be checked. There is scientific evidence that refutes such a scenario.

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Message 228 of 432 (646231)
01-03-2012 6:00 PM
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01-03-2012 4:16 PM


water ---> steam
ICANT writes:

I could just as easily say that any water that reaches 100° C becomes steam.

You could make such a statement but of course it would be wrong and show that you have no idea what is involved in changing water to steam.


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Message 234 of 432 (646258)
01-03-2012 8:51 PM
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01-03-2012 8:43 PM


Re: water ---> steam
It is the process that you don't seem to understand.

What is needed to change water state? How do you change water at 100C into steam at 100C?


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