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Author Topic:   Where Did The (Great Flood) Water Come From And Where Did It Go?
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Message 8 of 432 (642581)
11-29-2011 8:24 PM
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11-29-2011 5:09 AM


I think this is the basic creationist idea or moddel


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Message 12 of 432 (642613)
11-30-2011 7:27 AM
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11-30-2011 1:05 AM


Isn't it interesting that the entire video is nothing more than assertion from faith in a book of mythology without a single bit of actual evidence?

Thats why its called creationism and not science or history, or geology or any of the sort.


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Message 15 of 432 (642694)
11-30-2011 4:18 PM
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11-30-2011 2:51 AM


Trying to get the flood to happen with the water we currently have on the planet in the way it is described in the book is mathematically and physically impossible.

I dont know if your right.

Given that the deepest oceans reach 11 kilometers down i think we do have enough watter to cover the earth if we raise the land under the oceans to our current elevation and squash the mountains down a bit we only have to cover an extra 29% of the earth and we dont need to cover them a whole lot just a few feet. If someone knows the volume of watter on earth and the earth surface area one could calculate if it is possible.

volume of the earths oceans 1 350 000 000 KM3
surface area 510 000 000 km2

we should be able to cover the entire earth by 2,6 kilometers if we make the ground flat and uniform

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Message 17 of 432 (642710)
11-30-2011 6:40 PM
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Details, details

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Message 24 of 432 (642768)
12-01-2011 12:10 PM
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12-01-2011 11:35 AM


Re: Why talk about it?
Thing is once someone believes that god made everything in 7 days, made a woman out of a rib (cause presumably the nothing he created everything else from ran out), and talking snakes, magic apples .... If one swallows all that garbage a simple flood story provides no trouble god did it it says so in the bible and he probably used magic so scientists will never understand how he did it.

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Message 41 of 432 (642963)
12-03-2011 6:44 AM
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12-03-2011 5:23 AM


Re: It's your model!
How high does your model require any elevation to be?

In the interests of making a working model of the flood even if not supported by evidence that it actually happened, if the sea floors where at 0 elevation the watter would cover everything to a hight of 2,6 kilometers.

That is of course Rough math calculation because if seas experience a slight centrifugal effect do to the earth rotating so the same amount of watter covers a higher elevation at the equator and a lower one at the poles. The watter kind of flows uphill sort of because of the centrifugal force. If the earth would stop rotating and everything else remains the same the oceans would gather at the poles revealing a dry land around the equator.

I have a moddel that could make the flood possible.

The earths core is heating up the material inside the earth causing flows that push the earths crust in an outward direction from the center kind of the same way the sun dose it when it goes red giant. Now if some magicman or chance would introduce material that brakes/slows down nuclear reactions i think they use graffite in nuclear power plants the force at witch the hot flowing material pushes against the crust would be lower causing the earth to "shrink" a bit unleashing devastating cunamies and floods, raising and lowering of land, that could be described as a worldwide flood. If someone could introduce material that slows down nuclear reactions or if some nuclear material at the earths core that was providing a boost where to run out this scenario would be plausible but it still dint happen.


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Message 43 of 432 (642969)
12-03-2011 10:24 AM
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12-03-2011 10:11 AM


Re: It's your model!
I expect to see your post quote mined in future creationist debates.

Haha certainly hope not

Thing is if this scenario where to have happened we would see tones of evidence that it happened, things like an enormous amount of volcanoes erupting everywhere in the world at the same time, flood deposits everywhere in the world, geological evidence in mountains that would show they where raised abruptly the same kind of evidence in chasms that would show they descended abruptly ...... There would be no denying the fact that it happened.


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